—Well I don’t know that I would call it “dumb”, especially since I never “interpret” Scripture but just take it as God wrote it with no additions or subtractions or changing to fit what I would like to see. —
Actually, most of what we get out of scripture is interpreted. This is partly true because we are reading a translation, which was “interpreted” from another language. A bible scholar friend of mine actually said that you can’t really “fully” understand the content of the bible with out a strong understanding of the languages in which it was originally written and fluency in those languages. It means my understanding of Jesus and our father’s personality come more from my relationship with Him than from His word. So I use prayer and personal relationship with Him and what it communicates over what the bible communicates, when the scripture is confusing. It tells me that the fence stays blue, as opposed to painting the fence forever.
That’s why I cut slack on the opinions of others on “non-bullet”* doctrines.
We agree on 1948. But using that to prove that you can take revelation as plain is a mistake. After all, there is a lot of scripture about Jesus in the OT, yet even Paul got it wrong until his encounter with Jesus.
And to give you an idea about my take on eternity, if I say I am going to paint a fence blue for all eternity, do I mean I’m going to spend eternity painting it or do I mean I will paint it and then it will STAY BLUE for all eternity?
Also, you say past prophesies came to pass just as he said they would, yet it was not so obvious to those alive before the event, as much as they thought it was. It’s why they had Jesus killed.
And the events which you and I are discussing are “future”. And I find it fascinating that so many that read scripture that says some go to eternal life and others to destruction can then argue that both are, in fact, still alive. It kinda makes either God or His word a liar. That is, unless you “interpret” it to mean something else.
*A bullet doctrine is one you would take a bullet for - such as grace.
If that's true, then we can discount all of Scripture because someone is always going to attempt the cop-out of "this Bible was "interpreted from another language". All it takes is a few minutes of research on a particular Bible to check the origins of the translation to see how it was done and if it is as true as possible to the orginal Hebrew and Greek.
That nonsense of "translaton from another language" is a failed attempt to give man lattitude that God never gave us to change His word to something that we like better than what He wrote.
But using that to prove that you can take revelation as plain is a mistake. After all, there is a lot of scripture about Jesus in the OT, yet even Paul got it wrong until his encounter with Jesus.
If we're not supposed to take the word of God as "plain", how are we to take it? Where does God give us permission to take His word as anything other than "plain"? Where do we go to find out, if we are not to read the Bible as God wrote it, exactly how we are supposed to take His Scriptures? We need some sort of authorization from God to read the Bible any way other than exactly how He wrote it, so were do we go to get that authorization?
And as for Paul "getting it wrong until his encounter with Jesus", God already covered that:
For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)
But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. (1 Corinthians 2:14)
So no one can understand Scripture unless He knows Christ as Savior because it is the indwelling Holy Spirit in those who know Christ Who interprets Scripture and makes it understandable.
So Paul and everyone else gets it wrong without Jesus Christ.
Also, you say past prophesies came to pass just as he said they would, yet it was not so obvious to those alive before the event, as much as they thought it was. It’s why they had Jesus killed.
And that leaves us with absolutely no excuse for denying that the prophetic Scripture will literally come to pass because we have the completed Scripture which gives us the history of God literally fulfilling the prophecies that He wrote.
If He has fulfilled His past prophecies, He will absolutely fulfill His prophecies for the future.
And the events which you and I are discussing are “future”. And I find it fascinating that so many that read scripture that says some go to eternal life and others to destruction can then argue that both are, in fact, still alive.
Can you give the Scripture which confirms and supports your belief and opinion that man does not have an eternal soul which, as God states, goes to one of two places and is entirely conscious and aware of where it is and how it got there?
Keep in mind, I'm not interested in your opinion. I need to see the Scripture that validates your opinion. Scripture is the only authority on this subject and that is what you need to post to make your opinion agree with what God has said.