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To: stpio
Pray, ask Our Lord if He is truly present in the Eucharist.

Let me first ask you:

-- Is His Incorruptible Blood a constituent of the Eucharist?
-- Is His current Spiritual, Indestructible Body a constituent of the Eucharist?
-- If so, what happens to these if they are physical, material Presences and if they are consumed, passing into the human ailmentary canal?
Judas of Kerioth ate and drank of both.
-- How did that affect him, if the pronouncement of The Master is to be taken as literal language, and not figurative-literal language nor allegorical metaphor?

-- Your answer in 100 words or less is - what?

(No external authorities other than The Holy Scriptures, Koine and/or a literal equivalence translation)

148 posted on 07/02/2012 4:04:04 AM PDT by imardmd1 (...Let such as love Thy salvation say continually,"The LORD be magnified!" Ps. 40:16b)
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To: imardmd1

Let me first ask you:

— Is His Incorruptible Blood a constituent of the Eucharist?
— Is His current Spiritual, Indestructible Body a constituent of the Eucharist?
— If so, what happens to these if they are physical, material Presences and if they are consumed, passing into the human ailmentary canal?
Judas of Kerioth ate and drank of both.
— How did that affect him, if the pronouncement of The Master is to be taken as literal language, and not figurative-literal language nor allegorical metaphor?

— Your answer in 100 words or less is - what?

(No external authorities other than The Holy Scriptures, Koine and/or a literal equivalence translation)

~ ~ ~

— Yes, at the priest’s words of consecration, all of Christ is present, His risen body, blood, soul and divinity. The “substance” is changed but the “accidents” the bread and wine remain the same, you have to believe by faith because you do not see a change. God said it is true, it’s supernatural. For those with little faith, who doubt, there are Eucharistic miracles throughout the centuries.

— The Body of Christ remains as long as the sacramental species remain intact, that is, until they corrupt.

— John states Judas immediately left, I do not think
Judas received the Eucharist, Jesus had not instituted the
Eucharist yet. The “morsel” was part of the Seder meal.

_ _ Jesus wasn’t speaking metaphorically, otherwise He
would of gone after the disciples who left in disbelief and explained to them, My presence is only figurative. He didn’t.

Your last sentence, your request, I would like to ask you, where does it say in Scripture, all of God’s revelation is contained in the Bible? Scripture states the Church is our “authority” not the Bible 1 Tim 3:15. The Church gave the
world the Bible. It makes sense.

The Apostolic Fathers believed in the Real Presence.

blessings,


163 posted on 07/02/2012 10:04:56 PM PDT by stpio
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