Posted on 07/01/2012 8:34:57 AM PDT by Colofornian
But O's smiling face is not likely to entice a person to HIS 'religion'; thus to lose their soul by trusting in a FALSE savior.
Where do you get off sending all "LDSers" to hell?
Who authorized you to do that?
What kind of authoritative beast are you that automatically delivers "categories" of people ("LDSers") that Christ died for to hell?
Are you telling us that Christ cannot deliver and rescue "LDSer" people?
Do you realize the six people I copied above in this post were once an "LDSer?"
Are you castigating all six of them to "hell" because of their former "LDSer" status?
And even among "Jews that don't accept Christ as God," are not these Jews worth dying for -- as Christ did? Are not these Jews worth us expending ourselves for -- as the Jewish apostle Paul indicated he wanted to do himself...if only that would make a difference?
Here, I'll let the apostle Paul speak for himself:
I speak the truth in Christ—I am not lying, my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit— 2 I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen. (Paul, Letter to the Church at Rome, 9:1-5)
Do you note how highly that Paul speaks of his fellow Jews?
They are the chosen ones!
They've been designed to be adopted as sons of God!
They've been designed for partaking in God's glory! His covenants! His promises!
They're the people group whom the incarnated Son of God came thru Mary -- and the lineage that was developed generation-by-generation!
You seem to post like this is all some "religious game" with certain posts trying to get "trump points." It's not! This is life and death stuff! Over people of tremendous value!!!
The Jews and the Mormons are people of tremendous value -- as YOU are as well! Christ died for you! Christ died for Jews! Christ died for Mormons! Christ died for me!
You seem to imply in your posts that we are here to "lord" it over people of other religions, casting people here & there as if this was all some game of cards! Nothing could be further from the truth!
Christ came to this earth to serve each of us via a three-year public ministry with no place to lay His head;
Christ came to live the perfect life we could not -- and transfer that righteousness to our account via His mercy and grace;
Christ came to destroy the works of Satan;
Christ came to this earth to serve each of us via horrific scourgings and an ultimate "tree" as His "frame" to be nailed upon.
The Holy Spirit indwells His church -- thereby likewise serving us from such a lowly position as a temple of flesh and blood.
And, if you go back up to verse 3 above from Romans 9:1-5, "For I could wish that I myself were cursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my people, those of my own race, 4 the people of Israel" -- Paul is wishing he himself could have gone to hell ("cursed and cut off from Christ") if only his fellow Jews could be saved!
Does that sound like someone freely "casting" about Jews to hell? Or does that sound like one with exceeding sorrow and unceasing anguish over many Jews' spiritual state???
Is there a group of people, NoLibZone, that you could say you would like to go to hell on their behalf -- like Paul did? If you did that, does that sound like "lording" over people's eternal destinations and assigning them automatic destinations? Or, rather, does it sound like the ultimate service to them...with some of them finding THE Ultimate Reality and Ultimate Treasure in life, The Anointed Holy Messiah!!! The Chosen One of chosen ones!
Not likely? It obviously HAS!, his 'religion' being "fundamental transformation"/"Change" Marxism. Others actually believe his "Black Liberation Theology" version of Christianity is legit. BLT is a communist front movement which concocts fake religions to use as a means of advancing the communist agenda.
Again, this thread is about mormonism why are yo focused on Catholics. If you want to talk about Catholicism start a new thread.
I asked where is the hatred - I had hoped the question was simple enough you would realize it was about this thread and mormoism.
Apparently not.
Maybe I can make it even more simple - what hate is there is exposing mormoism.
Salivation gave us the way by Grace.
There is only one way to spend eternity in the Glory of God. There is no plan B.
On one sends anyone anywhere, we either go to heave or hell of our own free will.
Then we’ll have to choose which evil we want to rule over us!
The Jews in Israel that don’t recognize Jesus as the Saviour will end up in the same place as the mormons?
No matter how you ask the question the answer is the same, there is. O plan B.
THX 1138 - people defending mormonism (place marker)
Doesn't a person's faith tell you a lot about that person's character and discernment? Both of those seem to critical to fulfill the duties you're concerned about. Ignore at your own risk. I find it really troubling that the Republican candidate is a true-blue believer in a religion which can be refuted with a few hours of open-minded research. Either he is deceived or he knows the truth and is engaged in deceiving others. Neither is a good qualification for POTUS.
Assume you have a solid conservative (unlike Mitt) who holds weird religious views (like Mitt). Would you vote for this person if he or she was a Scientologist? Would you vote for this person if he or she practices voodoo and sacrifices chickens? Would you vote for that person if he or she wants to revive the Aztec religions and practice human sacrifice? Of course, somewhere along that continuum, you'd say no. Which goes to show that faith can be an issue, the question is where you draw the line.
Those of us who have been studying Mormonism for decades are aware of its insidious nature. Like a financial fraud, Mormonism is built on deception. It may not have the overt threat of Islam but it is just as dangerous to the human soul.
Yep. Certainly appears that affinity fraud Ponzi scheming is in the nature of those who ascend The Ladder.
Who is James P Lewis?
What is the Mormon Doctrine of Blood Atonement?
http://mormonismexposed.blogspot.com/2008/01/mormon-doctrine-of-blood-atonement.html
>>vast sums, sums Utahans could never dream of absconding with.
Who is James P Lewis?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&biw=1600&bih=746&sclient=psy-ab&q=James+P+Lewis+Ponzi+Mormon
Is a couple of hundred million “vast” enough for ya?
“You’re right. Their hatred is getting old. It’s like the conservative version of Jeremiah Wright.”
Except he’s more conservative, and higher paid. Oh yeah, and not angry at his own apostasy. Oh yeah, and he’s a man. But behavioral wise, right on.
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