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To: Zionist Conspirator; Talisker; Tax-chick
88And if G-d says that Jewish male children should be circumcised on their eight day, then that is exactly what should be done.

Okay, Sir. Consider this *REALISTIC* situation: a male child is born premature (24 weeks, for example) to a Jewish mother and is highly vulnerable to the nature of the post-natal care taken. Should this child be forced to risk death by being forced to undergo a ritual "eighth-day" genital mutilation, a.k.a, circumcision? If not, then why not? And when else?

53 posted on 07/03/2012 7:53:51 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: James C. Bennett
Okay, Sir. Consider this *REALISTIC* situation: a male child is born premature (24 weeks, for example) to a Jewish mother and is highly vulnerable to the nature of the post-natal care taken. Should this child be forced to risk death by being forced to undergo a ritual "eighth-day" genital mutilation, a.k.a, circumcision? If not, then why not? And when else?

You're evidently having a very difficult time understanding something. I am a Theonomic positivist. Since you don't know what that is, I'll explain: I believe that right and wrong, moral and immoral, ethical and unethical, are based on nothing whatsoever other than Divine decree. I reject "natural" law, "instinctual" morality, "spontaneous order," "utilitarianism," and every other basis for law and society. Every freaking one of them.

Do you want me to explain that to you again? Kindly save me the trouble by re-reading what I have posted.

Murder isn't wrong because it's against "nature" or our instincts tell us it's wrong or because "if everyone went around murdering people society would fall apart. Murder is wrong for one and only one reason: it violates an arcane Divine decree. "Thou shalt not kill" has exactly the same source as the laws for correctly performing an animal sacrifice and no other. When killing a person is forbidden it is a sin to do so. When killing a person is commanded by G-d it is a sin to refrain from killing that person.

Let me explain further. Contrary to what you may think, I am not Jewish; I am a Noachide. Now the Halakhah is that a Jew may not save a non-Jew from drowning on Shabbat. However, the Sages have ruled that in the current situation one may save the life of a non-Jew in order to preserve the peace between Jews and non-Jews. This means that when a Jew rescues a non-Jew from drowning, he is technically required to keep this in mind as his reason for doing so as he does it. Now, I am not Jewish and I can't swim. Let's say I fall into the river on Shabbat and a Jew is the only person available to save me. Unless he holds it in his mind that he is doing so for the reason the Sages authorized, he should let me drown. And when the reason for that leniency is no longer required, he should let me drown anyway, regardless of what he's holding in his mind.

Now, am I going to enjoy drowning? No. I'd probably scream bloody murder. But since I'm not drowning and can think clearly, I can tell you that he should do exactly as the Halakhah says, even if it means letting me drown.

Are you understanding yet, M. Voltaire???

So what do you think I'm going to answer you with regard to the question you ask? Duh. I'm going to say, whatever the Halakhah rules. If the Halakhah is that the circumcision must be postponed because of danger to the life of the child, then postpone it. If the Halakhah says to perform it anyway, then perform it anyway.

Any more questions?

65 posted on 07/03/2012 8:12:33 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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