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To: SuziQ
LOL! What on earth gives you the idea that the Catholic Church hates Adam and Eve, or Jonah's whale?

The fact that it spends so much time attacking them and people who believe in them. I was personally advised to leave the Catholic Church because it was "un-Catholic" to believe in them.

You yourself just said they aren't literally true. You said this in an earlier answer. How can they be the teachings of your "gxd" if they are false? Perhaps your "gxd" is prone to lying?

As for the New Testament, again, there are accounts written by those who knew men who knew the Apostles, so they had a direct connection to Jesus, through His Apostles. No interpretation needed there; we have HIS word.

The Torah was written by G-d. Why should such an account be less literal than your "new testament?"

As for attacking the 'Pelosis in the fold' I'm guessing the Bishops have made the calculation that no good would be served by going personally after Pelosi, or any of the other alleged Catholics like her, because it would probably drive more people away from God than toward Him. Many who don't pay attention to either politics or religion would see any attack as simply the big, bad Catholic Church going after American politicians. That wouldn't serve any purpose at all.

So instead Liguorian, US Catholic, Catholic Digest, and the orbit around Our Sunday Visitor choose to print article after article promoting evolution, the documentary hypothesis, and attacking those who don't bend the knee to these concepts.

So again, you and I will just disagree.

You must really think this is funny. I'm glad the torment of my personal experience with your "universal" Church amuses you.

38 posted on 07/05/2012 12:31:23 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"Why should such an account be less literal than your "new testament?""

I would think that you more than many contemporary Christians would have a deep understanding and appreciation for the literary genres and historicity of the Old Testament. You have to appreciate and recognize the midrash aggada and midrash halakha throughout the Old Testament.

In the many allegories, didactic narratives, epics, fables, parables and short stories rarely was modern standards of history important or more important than the underlying message or moral. In fact modern forensic based history was unheard in Old Testament times. Numbers, whether the number of people, the number of vices, horses, chariots, slaves, troops, those slain, etc. were more often descriptive and qualitative than quantitative. Historical sequence and geography were also secondary to the message.

I appreciate your unique perspectives in these areas, and you do have a lot to contribute to our understanding of the foundations of Christian beliefs, but the condescension associated with treatment of Christian doctrine wears thin.

Peace be with you.

39 posted on 07/05/2012 12:57:56 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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