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To: Titanites

Hey! Hold on there a second buddy. Those statements which you are trying to characterize as what I offered as "history", were in answer to a question YOU asked, as to "what difference would it have made" concerning the reasons behind the slaughters, and what declarations were made at the time by Menendez concerning the same.

It made a difference at the time, being it was as I said. Europeans both Catholic and Protestant were appalled when details of the goings-on reached them.

Wikipedia is hardly "all historical accounts"

I never said that they were, yet even with only grabbing from that convenient source, it's far better than than what you yourself bring in establishing points key to your "version of truth" which is by and large sophistry and opinion, backed by wind.

105 posted on 07/10/2012 1:40:59 AM PDT by BlueDragon (cast your bread upon the waters, it will come back to you after many days... all soggy)
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To: BlueDragon; Cronos
Hey! Hold on there a second buddy.

I'm not sure where you get the impression that I'm your buddy.

Those statements which you are trying to characterize as what I offered as "history", were in answer to a question YOU asked

Some people just can't help themselves when asked rhetorical questions.

I never said that they were, yet even with only grabbing from that convenient source, it's far better than than what you yourself bring in establishing points key to your "version of truth" which is by and large sophistry and opinion, backed by wind.

It's not my "version of the turth". I avoid using Wikipedia as a source of history. However, this "wind" is from your "convenient source" which you have proclaimed as far better than what I've used:

    In the meantime, the Spanish, who had long maintained a claim over Florida, had made preparations to find and oust the French from Fort Caroline. In early September Pedro Menéndez de Avilés, newly appointed adelantado of Florida, landed to the south of Fort Caroline and established the settlement of St. Augustine.

    Jean Ribault took his fleet south to pursue Menéndez on September 10. Learning that the majority of the French men at arms were gone from Fort Caroline, Menéndez ordered his infantrymen to march 40 miles north to Fort Caroline, during a hurricane. On 20 September, the Spanish captured the now lightly defended French settlement; 140 men were immediately put to death. In the eyes of the king of Spain, the acts of piracy committed by former residents of Fort Caroline made the entire settlement a dangerous nest of pirates and heretics.

The Facts:
  1. France and Spain were at war.

  2. Spanish ships and settlements in the area were being plundered by pirates, at least some of which were Huguenots.

  3. Florida was a territory claimed by Spain.

  4. French Huguenots built a garrison in Florida.

  5. At least some of these Frenchmen were known to be pirates.

  6. The Spanish King charged Menéndez with removing the French garrison.

  7. The Spanish were victorious over the French. Menéndez was successful in his mission and the French never returned to build another fort.

  8. The story that this was simply a Catholic massacre of humble Huguenots only trying to practice their faith is a fairy tale.

132 posted on 07/10/2012 12:48:56 PM PDT by Titanites
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