Skip to comments.Episcopal Church bans discrimination against transsexuals
Posted on 07/09/2012 3:19:36 PM PDT by markomalley
Gender identity and gender expression have been added the category of protected classes of personas and behavior for the Episcopal Church. On 9 July 2012 the House of Deputies adopted resolutions D002 and D019 forbidding discrimination in the employment, ordination and the life, worship, and governance of trans-gendered or transsexual persons.
Proposed by Deputies Sara Lawton of California and Byron Rushing of Massachusetts stated the resolutions were motivated by an increased understanding and practice to respect the human dignity of transgender people - transsexuals, and others who differ from majority societal gender norms.
Gender identity (one's inner sense of being male or female) and expression (the way in which one manifests that gender identity in the world) should not be bases for exclusion, in and of themselves, from consideration for participation in the ministries of the Church, the proposers averred.
Speaking in support of Resolution D019, Ms. Lawton stated that she had a transgendered sibling and that some members of her congregation in San Francisco were transgendered. The Episcopal Church would be greatly blessed by welcoming them fully into the life of the church.
Deputy Samuel Gould of Massachusetts urged convention to adopt the resolutions so as to be in tune with the spirit of the age. Citing a recent survey by the Barna Organization that claimed that 85 per cent of those in their 20s saw churches as being hypocritical, Mr. Gould stated we need not be a hypocritical church and should welcome all people.
A transgendered deputy, the Rev. Carla Robinson of the Diocese of Olympia urged to adopt the resolution as well. By including gender identity in the list of protected categories in the canons, you will rightly name us and put a face on us all.
The Rev. Charles Holt, Deputy from the Diocese of Central Florida urged rejection of the resolution. The Episcopal Church was the most welcoming church he knew and he was unsure as to the necessity of the amendment. However, laying down the law on these matters will only harden the hearts of those who are prejudiced.
To qualify all in this matter harden hearts, he said.
The Rev. Canon James Lewis, Deputy from South Carolina said that while gender identity and expression may have meaning for the proposers, to be honest I would be hard pressed to explain the boundary between identity and expression.
No explanation of these terms or a theological explanation has been offered, he said, adding that the arguments put forward by supporters were incoherent and contradictory. Canon Lewis said that the arguments put forward for the full inclusion of gays and lesbians in the life of the church was that as God had made them that they, and that God did not make mistakes, the church should not exclude them.
However, the argument put forward by the supporters of the transgendered resolution were saying that God had made a mistake when he made transgendered people, who by seeking surgery or other means to change their gender were correcting Gods error.
Lay deputies from Connecticut and Kansas who identified themselves as lesbians in their addresses to the House said the LBGT community supported the rights of the transgendered for full inclusion in the church. Deputy Natalia Vanatta of Kansas said LGBT people support the trans community as the trans community supports us.
The Rev. Eric Turner, Deputy from the Diocese of Central Florida offered an amendment to resolution D019 that would remove gender identity and expression from the pertinent canon as well as all other protected classes: race, color, ethnic origin, national origin, marital status, sex, sexual orientation, disabilities or age. He said the church should not have to name all the things that we dislike, but deal with people as individuals.
From a theological and pastoral perspective, it was better to treat people as individuals rather than as members of protected classes and to welcome all. Adding a new minority when it is in vogue or politically correct to the anti-discrimination list was unwise, he argued.
Mr. Rushing rose in opposition to the amendment, saying that he was saddened that we need to have a canon that listed protected classes. But he was proud the Episcopal Church defines all.
The Turner amendment was defeated, and both resolutions passed the House on a voice vote.
Reactions from outside the convention have been mixed. LGBT groups welcomed the changes, but legal scholar Allan Haley noted the convention had not through the issue.
Transgendered people are really in a dilemma, if one thinks about it. They say that they cannot let God dictate what they are, by the outward form in which He clothed them at birth; but they also contend that God ordained that they should have equal opportunities for employment throughout the Episcopal Church (USA). In other words: they get to choose (or reserve a decision on) how society must regard them, but all the rest of us cannot choose whether we want them to work for us. The choice, in their view, runs only in their favor: heads they win, and tails the rest of us lose.
…legal scholar Allan Haley noted the convention had not through the issue...Transgendered people are really in a dilemma, if one thinks about it. They say that they cannot let God dictate what they are, by the outward form in which He clothed them at birth; but they also contend that God ordained that they should have equal opportunities for employment throughout the Episcopal Church (USA). In other words: they get to choose (or reserve a decision on) how society must regard them, but all the rest of us cannot choose whether we want them to work for us. The choice, in their view, runs only in their favor: heads they win, and tails the rest of us lose.
Look at it this way. They are the loosers no matter what happens. First, they are transgender. I would not wish that on anyone. Two, they are part of the Episcopal Church. They do not have to worry about what God thinks of them; He will have nothing to do with them in that church.
This denomination should be careful making a mockery of the church. All they can call themselves , at best, is a bunch of social fascists. God will not be mocked.
In my mind, the Episcopal Church is no longer a Christian organization, but rather an organization that worships Satan. Their protection of evil makes that clear.
So, if I refer to Christians, it no longer includes Episcopalians.
Oh My God: That picture. my eyes, my eyes.
What is it? Wait: Don’t answer, I don’t want to know.
I’m pretty sure God has something to say about self-mutilation.
You have identified another of the problems faced by “the box” congregations calling themselves a “church”. The bodies of believers in Jesus Christ do not hold such views. Instead, we say with the Scriptures that no practicing homosexuals, transgendered, lesbians, bi-sexuals will be in the Kingdom of God. That they wish to play house in one of the already lost organizations makes no difference to us. They are still dead in their sins and trespasses...or they would renounce their deviation.
Just another cult. Move on.
gone to Hell......In a hand basket.