Posted on 07/09/2012 4:28:17 PM PDT by Gillibrand
The guy is an idiot.
Ping for later
And Catholics here on FR keep wanting to dispute how liberal the Church is.
Third in the pecking order, peddling liberation theology.
But the Church isn’t socialist. Noooooo.
I don’t deny it- and it has been getting worse, but I would never leave The Vatican.
The vanguard it plays on a larger scale is unfathomably important to the free world; as has it been.
High ranking yes, but one man only and certainly no Lord.
CLASSICAL LIBERAL...as in our founding fathers...YES I AGREE!
Yep - I’m sure God would throw himself out of our schools and government. :)
I served as an altar boy back when the Mass was celebrated in Latin...can still recite “the sucipiot”. Three years later the church abandoned 2000 years of history and adopted English for the Mass. That, and because I couldn’t afford the indulgences at the going rate, I left the church and am now a card-carrying agnostic.
The sheep go astray, exactly as Christ tells us they will, and this makes you an agnostic?
Logic makes me agnostic.
I agree, if we’re talking about true liberty I agree that Jesus is the greatest liberal ever.
After all, we all have the freedom to do our own thing....and to face the consequences if we do the wrong thing.
If we’re talking modern liberalism....well he’s free to face the consequences of his beliefs.
Does logic tell you why Christ’s tomb was empty?
>>>That, and because I couldn’t afford the indulgences at the going rate,...>>>
Indulgence? Payment? I’ve been a Catholic all my life and have NEVER had to pay for indulgences. Indulgences are gained through prayer, or prayer and fasting.
Logic tells me to trust only that which I see. As a student of history I read the views of numerous historians...and even dabbled in eastern religions 40 years ago. I am what I am...as are you. Be well.
I’m referring to history...kind of a joke. Look it up, you may be amused...probably not, though. Be well.
And as a student of history you also trust that which others have seen.
In a way he is right, but his application is completely wrong.
Heaven is a socialist utopia, no private property, no rich and poor, not upper class and lower class, etc.
The problem is that the only person who’s just enough and good enough to be worthy of running such a place is God.
Earthly socialism is trying to establish this utopia on earth with man running such a place. Hence it places man in a position where only God deserves to be, and is idolatry.
Well.
Let’s look at the issue without blinders on.
God gives man what he needs. (a conservative action)
Lucifer(Satan,The Devil, whatever) gives man what he wants. (a liberal action).
The conclusion is obvious.
No, I don’t. I have to consider their voracity and decide who’s word I’m willing to “put my faith” in.
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