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The ‘God Particle’ and God (Without God, major scientific discoveries have no meaning)
National Review ^ | 07/10/2012 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 07/10/2012 7:06:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: allmendream
You made a statement, “The majority of American scientists are people of faith in God.” There is a difference between “faith in God” and; belief in God, a belief in a higher power, or being spiritual. The Rice article you cite discusses social scientists vs. natural scientists – and personally, I would try to avoid citing MSNBC or anecdotal ‘evidence’.

FYI, Templeton Report and Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really Think

21 posted on 07/10/2012 11:54:59 AM PDT by Heartlander (You are either the doer, or the dude)
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To: Heartlander
According to the Rice study that MSN cited less than 30% of the scientists they talked to said they did not believe in God. They reported that roughly two thirds (66%) did believe in God.

Thus according to the Rice study the majority of American scientists are people of faith in God - just as I said.

Just because MSN cited the Rice study doesn't make the Rice study circumspect - it was just the first citation I found when looking; blame Google.

Care to address the obvious selection bias in picking politically active scientists from a particular group and and claiming they speak for or are representative of all scientists?

22 posted on 07/10/2012 12:01:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind

bflr


23 posted on 07/10/2012 12:03:30 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: allmendream

Again, there is a difference between “faith in God” and; belief in God, a belief in a higher power, or being spiritual.


24 posted on 07/10/2012 12:03:57 PM PDT by Heartlander (You are either the doer, or the dude)
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To: Heartlander
From the Templeton Report quoting the author of the study ABOUT the book she wrote “Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really Think”....

“She published her initial findings in a 2010 book: Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really Think,
which documented a surprising openness to religious faith and experience among an intellectual class wrongly thought to be implacably and uniformly hostile to religion.”

So according to the two sources you cited it is “wrongly thought” that science is hostile to religion.

A particular segment of the population likes to push that idea - but it is not supported by the evidence collected by Dr. Ecklund.

She found that the majority of American scientists she spoke to believed in God.

25 posted on 07/10/2012 12:08:20 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
From the book:

She finds that most of what we believe about the faith lives of elite scientists is wrong. Nearly 50 percent of them are religious.

26 posted on 07/10/2012 12:10:52 PM PDT by Heartlander (You are either the doer, or the dude)
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To: SeekAndFind
The potential discovery of the Higgs boson is nice, but relativity and quantum theory are still incompatible so there must yet be a deeper theory.

The mathematics of M-Theory are very beautiful and, I suspect its pursuers are on the right track. But the energy levels necessary to test it are probably unobtainable.

Though, God knows....

27 posted on 07/10/2012 2:15:56 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind

May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows you’re dead. Thanks for posting!


28 posted on 07/10/2012 7:08:47 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Hedra
Not sure you are on the right track.

As it is the Higgs Bosun is a part of what makes up everything.

What we have seen and the data supports it to a degree is the possibility that we have seen the traces of a Higgs particle.

I don't apply any scripture into science, I know there are some that do.

What I believe will happen, not necessarily in our lifetime, is that science will root down to the basic construction of what the universe is made of and stand in awe of how it was created, and probably impossible to duplicate.

29 posted on 07/10/2012 7:19:46 PM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: Hedra
Not sure you are on the right track.

As it is the Higgs Bosun is a part of what makes up everything.

What we have seen and the data supports it to a degree is the possibility that we have seen the traces of a Higgs particle.

I don't apply any scripture into science, I know there are some that do.

What I believe will happen, not necessarily in our lifetime, is that science will root down to the basic construction of what the universe is made of and stand in awe of how it was created, and probably impossible to duplicate.

30 posted on 07/10/2012 7:20:06 PM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: allmendream

Thanks..


31 posted on 07/11/2012 8:27:38 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: allmendream

Excellent and thoughtful.


32 posted on 07/12/2012 5:55:43 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Thanks! :)


33 posted on 07/13/2012 8:06:49 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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