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1 posted on 07/16/2012 4:26:23 PM PDT by rhema
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. . . "Second, Hanson’s good news operates as law: a summons to engage in God’s supposed work, which is the earthly Jesus’ supposed inclusiveness, not His Messianic bearing of the sin of the whole world as our representative on the cross under the wrath of God; this is a divine work of reconciliation with God by God that, of course, is Christ’s alone and ours only passively and by faith and repentance. As I pointed out three years ago, we go from this gospel, which is a gift to the sinner, to inclusion of all who repent and believe. If, however, we reverse the order and try to move from universal inclusion back to Jesus and His cross, we will have to take offense at the cross, both Jesus’ and the one laid on the believer by His Spirit, namely lifelong repentance from sin and separation from the culture of this dying epoch."
2 posted on 07/16/2012 4:29:38 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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iHow could we ever judge against a winsome preacher who manifestly loves Jesus and wants the church to be engaged in Jesus’ work of reconciliation and justice?

This man knows nothing of Christ. If youare a Christian, get out of this flaming mess. No less authority than the Apostle Paul commands us to come out from among them.
3 posted on 07/16/2012 4:33:54 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I'm for Churchill in 1940!)
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To: rhema

Deeds vs Grace:

Gal 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

Sin

Gal 6:6 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. 2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 3 If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves. 4 Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, 5 for each one should carry their own load. 6 Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor.


4 posted on 07/16/2012 4:37:08 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Be rooted in Christ!

5 posted on 07/16/2012 5:04:41 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: rhema

I think the good Bishop should model his life after God and shun the sinner, the hypocrite, the adulterer, the coveter of other people’s goods. Reconciliation does not work with those who do not wish to be reconciled, merely accepted.

God is the ultimate shunner. He even has created a special place to keep them away from Heaven.


7 posted on 07/17/2012 2:21:12 AM PDT by plangent
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