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Mitt Romney Converts to Catholicism ... (okay, not exactly)
Catholic Vote ^ | July 19, 2012 | Kathryn Lopez

Posted on 07/19/2012 3:39:48 PM PDT by NYer

Okay, not exactly. But he did say that he feels as if he is Catholic during a campaign stop on Wednesday. He said we all are.

In case you have not already seen the video, Romney said in Ohio:

Religious liberty — our first freedom of those enumerated in the Bill of Rights. And the president and his administration said they are going to usurp your religious freedom by demanding that you provide products to your employees, if you’re the Catholic Church, that violates your own conscience.
And so whether it’s a Catholic businessperson or the Catholic Church itself they’re being told what they have to do that violates their religious conscience. That attack on religious freedom I think is a dangerous and unfortunate precedent.
And I know we’re not all Catholic in this room. Many presumably are. But I feel that we’re all Catholic today. In our battle to preserve religious freedom and tolerance and freedom in this country, it is essential for us to push back against that.

The comments were well received — if you consider a standing ovation a warm reception. It was followed by a “Say it again” from the audience after applause. “I will say it again,” Romney said. “That’s one more good reason to get rid of Obamacare. And I’m going to get that done the first day I’m in office.”

This was not his first comment on the HHS Mandate religious-liberty fight, but his strongest, most spirited yet.

Romney’s “We’re all Catholics” comment on Wednesday could not have been better timed. It was the same day that evangelical Wheaton College joined the Catholic University of America in suing the federal government in Washington D.C. federal district court.

It’s worth pointing out that Romney is not a latter-day defender of religious liberty, having come up against ideological challenges to it while he was governor of Massachusetts. His comments Wednesday serve as a reminder that this election matters in ways that run much deeper than what party is in the White House.

The House of Representatives has been a powerhouse of attention to this issue, with Nebraska Republican Jeff Fortenberry in the lead, with an ecumenical, bipartisan coalition supporting his conscience-rights legislation. Speaker of the House John Boehner has insisted that the “If the president does not reverse the Department’s attack on religious freedom, then the Congress, acting on behalf of the American people and the Constitution we are sworn to uphold and defend, must.” That would be a lot more possible to do with a Senate that would support him and a president who would sign conscience protection.

Do we value religious liberty as we have or not? That’s the choice.

Watch the video here.


TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: freedom; obama; religion
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1 posted on 07/19/2012 3:39:55 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 07/19/2012 3:40:43 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

I am Spartacus.


3 posted on 07/19/2012 3:41:38 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: NYer

What a weird statement to make, it makes no sense.


4 posted on 07/19/2012 3:53:14 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw
What a weird statement to make, it makes no sense.

In other words, he stands with the Catholic Church in her fight against our government for religious freedom. It's not hard to understand.

5 posted on 07/19/2012 3:58:12 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: NYer

Seems that someone (maybe the poster) thinks that religion actually has something to do with this election. Get a clue fellow - this is politics and policies, Liberal against Conservative. Get with it!


6 posted on 07/19/2012 3:58:15 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: svcw

It is an extremely weird statement coming from him considering what he did in Massachusetts.


7 posted on 07/19/2012 4:01:12 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: al_c
Don't even try explaining Ich ein Berliner to that guy
8 posted on 07/19/2012 4:07:32 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Waryone
Etch-a-sketch can read the polls.

But there is no guarantee of religious freedom with Romney.

Mormon bishop's daughter spills Romney's 'secrets' ...

"The author, who herself was married in a Mormon temple at age 19 but now considers herself a non-denominational Christian, says there’s a secret agenda Mormon officials don’t like to talk about publicly."

“A complete takeover of the government,” she said. “They have more people in the CIA, the FBI. They have an employment office for Mormons in D.C. to be able to infiltrate them into the government.”

“They’ve been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to Earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on Earth,” she continued.

9 posted on 07/19/2012 4:10:54 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NYer

Well, since the Mormons have retroactively baptized all the Popes, Cardinals, Bishops and most Catholics into the Mormon church, I guess he could say he feels like a Catholic, since Catholics are Mormons.

He could also claim to be an Orthodox Jew, for that matter.


10 posted on 07/19/2012 4:36:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: al_c

No, it is weird considering how he governed in MA.


11 posted on 07/19/2012 4:39:36 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Two things:
I am not a guy.
If you are going to talk about, ping me.
Oh, yea third thing, apparently you do not know Romney’s record vs the Catholic church in MA.


12 posted on 07/19/2012 4:42:20 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: DannyTN
Look, I'm not a fan of Mormonism by any stretch of the imagination, in fact, I'm an ex-mormon and I post frequently on many of the Mormon threads in an attempt to debate or discuss the theology or doctrine.

But this woman has not presented any valid credentials to indicate she would have such knowledge other than being an ex-mo and bishop's daughter. Was she CIA, FBI or some other alphabet agency employee to have gained this level of insight? The primary reason Mormons may [I've not seen any demographics to confirm either way.] make up a large portion of those agencies is that they typically aren't as susceptible to booze, women or related types of blackmail because of their beliefs.

A bishop, is at the same level as a priest or pastor. Usually just the most observant warm body in a ward [congregation] that will accept the "calling".

How would she know about an "...employment office for Mormons in D.C. to be able to infiltrate them into the government." among other things? Her claims are just too incredulous and without any substantiation.

Most everything else she's referring to is the White Horse Propehcy. Where many Mormons believe that a Mormon will save the Republic in her darkest hour.

13 posted on 07/19/2012 4:51:09 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: svcw
"The President and his administration said they are going to usurp your religious freedom by demanding that you provide products to your employees -- if you’re the Catholic Church -- that violate your own conscience.

And so whether it’s a Catholic businessperson or the Catholic Church itself, they’re being told what they have to do that violates their religious conscience. That attack on religious freedom, I think, is a dangerous and unfortunate precedent.

And I know we’re not all Catholic in this room. Many presumably are. But I feel that we’re all Catholic today. In our battle to preserve religious freedom and tolerance and freedom in this country, it is essential for us to push back against that."


14 posted on 07/19/2012 4:53:31 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NV o/r IA = 271EV)
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To: StAnDeliver

So you apparently do not know Romney’s record vs the Catholic Church in MA because of his record it is a weird statement.


15 posted on 07/19/2012 4:56:09 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: NYer

Santorium he ain’t. Gingrich he ain’t (this might be a good thing!).

But, I was surprised to learn the other day that Andrea, Kim, Greg, Dana, Eric and sadly Bob are all Catholics on the 5.

Bob would maybe call himself a ‘recoverying’ Catholic, and Greg sounds like he is not a regular at the Mass, but the others sound pretty active.


16 posted on 07/19/2012 4:58:24 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: SZonian

Boogieman Denier


17 posted on 07/19/2012 4:58:42 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: NYer

I am sure some of you will wonder how 6 of them mentioned it at one time. Eric might have actually been off but he is a member of Opus Dei and attends Mass DAILY, and he has said this a couple of times on air before.


18 posted on 07/19/2012 5:03:45 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

I dunno, “We are all Catholics today” seems somewhat more moving and easier to explain than JFK’s “I am a cream filled German pastry”.


19 posted on 07/19/2012 5:07:10 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana

Well done!


20 posted on 07/19/2012 5:12:24 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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