I think we can all see how this is going to end up, now. The courts will be of no assistance just as they have not in the decades-long struggle against the removal of religion from the public square. Indeed, they have been part of the problem. It's going to come down to defiance of the government, heavy penalties and perhaps in some cases, prison.
To: marshmallow
It’s starting to appear that Americans don’t have any “standing” in our “courts” anymore.
2 posted on
07/22/2012 11:55:21 AM PDT by
FlingWingFlyer
(Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
To: marshmallow
"I think we can all see how this is going to end up, now. The courts will be of no assistance just as they have not in the decades-long struggle against the removal of religion from the public square. Indeed, they have been part of the problem. It's going to come down to defiance of the government, heavy penalties and perhaps in some cases, prison."
That isn't going to stop Obama. He will be more than happy to jail as many conservatives as it takes. Passive resistance will leads to fines and shutdown of noncomplying institutions. Passive resistance unless it is in the many millions will lead to individual penalties, persecution by the instrumentalities of government, and jail. Obama must be voted out and the Obamacare repealed.
3 posted on
07/22/2012 12:10:53 PM PDT by
Truth29
To: marshmallow
Am I wrong in visualizing the courts reason that as long as government says it is ‘planning’ to respond to some questions or objections an ordinary citizen has no right of standing to seek preemptive protection. This would be government first and foremost which I do not think was the intention(s) of the Founders or many, many citizens. Of course in today’s USA one has to realize that judges take their positions as government very seriously.
To: marshmallow
It's important to note that these dismissals aren't on substantive grounds, they're all either alleging that the plaintiff doesn't have standing or that the rule isn't final yet.
So don't comply, don't pay the fine, etc. When the government attempts to prosecute, the government will have to come up with something stronger than a procedural objection to the religious freedom defense.
In the meantime, try to get the whole piece of kaka repealed.
6 posted on
07/22/2012 12:46:07 PM PDT by
Campion
("Social justice" begins in the womb)
To: marshmallow
Eighty or so years of almost uninterrupted control of Congress is really paying off for the democrat fascists. And the democrat fascists will stay in control of the courts as long as long as people who believe in the Constitution get sucked into the, “they’re all the same” game or convince themselves that not voting and working for Republicans is going to teach the Vichy Republicans a lesson.
7 posted on
07/22/2012 1:14:42 PM PDT by
Rashputin
(Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
To: marshmallow
by the hands of traitors in the US government the constitution has been nullified by two principles that have been allowed to override the law of this land; NO CONTROLLING AUTHORITY and WITHOUT STANDING TO BE HEARD IN COURT.
What's next, gulags or death for unyielding patriots?
8 posted on
07/22/2012 1:46:44 PM PDT by
drypowder
To: marshmallow
So they have no standing, because we say so.
Looks like the fix is in.
9 posted on
07/22/2012 5:19:49 PM PDT by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: marshmallow
Can someone from this area tell us whether this judge is appointed or elected?
When we find that out, perhaps we can do something about him.
10 posted on
07/22/2012 5:37:31 PM PDT by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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