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To: GiovannaNicoletta

:The belief that all prophecies relating to the return of Christ, including those in Matthew, the rest of the Gospels, and the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ took place in 70 AD has been discredited and debunked so many times that the word “preterist” evokes the same derision as the words “flat earth”


Oops, now I see your entire sentence. I only looked at my ping list before.

I specifically deny this, and so do all the old commentators I have ever read.

I suspect there is a thing called Preterism, which is another form of ignorance not unlike the same modern dogmas which deny that there was any fulfillment of Christ’s words in 70ad.

Matthew Henry, Darby and others do not hold to these views. Not to Preterism, and not to the modern ideas.


38 posted on 08/01/2012 6:09:52 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain
This is a preterist statement:

But you choose to believe the entirety of the Prophecy refers only to some future Temple and future Jewish tribulation! Even when Christ said specifically that there would be those who stood there who would not taste of death until they saw Christ coming!

If you had listened to the video link I gave you, you would have learned that when Jesus said:

“Truly I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His Kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)

He is referring to His transfiguration, not His second coming, as we see when we keep reading in the book of Matthew:

“And after six days Jesus took with him Peter and James and John… and led them up a high mountain apart. And He was transfigured before them, and His face shown like the sun and His garments became white as light. And behold! there appeared to them Moses and Elijah, talking with Him.” (Matthew 17:1-2)

And Peter reinforces that they saw Jesus demonstrate His kingdom at the transfiguration:

“For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ but we were eyewitnesses of His Majesty. For when He received honor and glory from God the Father and the voice was borne to Him by the Majestic Glory, ’this is my Beloved Son with whom I am well pleased,’ we heard this voice borne from heaven, for we were with Him on the holy mountain.” (2 Peter 1:16-18)

So the statement made by Christ in Matthew 16 was not a fulfillment of His literal second coming, but a reference to His transfiguration which took place and to which there were witnesses.

And while Jesus did prophecy the destruction of the second temple, and while that was fulfilled in 70 AD, the Bible clearly teaches that a new temple — which will be called The Third Temple — will be built in the future.

The Third Temple will exist during the Great Tribulation. Daniel refers to this temple when he says that "the prince who is to come" (the Antichrist) will enter it and stop the sacrifices in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). The Apostle Paul mentions it when he declares that the "man of lawlessness" will profane the temple by entering it and declaring himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). The Third Temple is also mentioned in the book of Revelation when John is told to measure it — a symbolic way of telling him to assess its spiritual condition (Revelation 11:1-2).

The Bible does not reveal exactly when the third temple will be built. All it says for certain is that the temple will be in existence when the Antichrist reveals himself (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), and that will be in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27).

So, like I said, there is neither Scriptural proof nor historical evidence for preterism. Preterism is generally the fairy tale that is required to attempt to make other false doctrines, like postmillennialism and amillennialism, work for those who don't want to believe the Scripture as God wrote it.

There is not one verse in the Bible which states that the events of the Tribulation which Jesus gave us in Matthew and Revelation happened in 70 AD and not one book ever written that states that the events detailed in Matthew and Revelation have ever happened in the history of the world.

39 posted on 08/02/2012 2:59:05 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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