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5 Reasons Why the Church Failed Yesterday (Re: Chick-fil-A appreciation day) [Meh!]
MatthewPaulTurner.net ^ | August 2, 2012 | Matthew Paul Turner

Posted on 08/03/2012 3:34:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess Christ (who by the way, is God) is a "Hater" in the mind of this liberal atheist Obama voter?

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. 16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’

17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?

20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it. 23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. 25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. 27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.

28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. 29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.

30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Matthew 23: 13-33

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Confront a liberal atheist with Christ's ferocity, and ask them, is the Son of Man a "hater?"

The scriptures condemn homosexuality, in the most strongest of terms. Liberals say Christ never spoke about homosexuality. He didn't have to! Christ said He came not to change one jot or tittle of the Law. In His own Law, Christ condemns homosexuality. Christ also spoke more about Hell than about Heaven. He warned humanity that sin's wages are eternal punishment. He has His arms wide open even now for all sinners! Yet these people refuse to come to Him, and they mock Him and His sacrifice.

21 posted on 08/03/2012 4:35:08 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Faggots would have never gotten to the point that they think forcing their behavior on others is reasonable without decades of Christian love working to ignore their sins and try to reach them. At this point, they're trying to force and coerce others into participation in their sin.

They moved themselves into the "let them be anathema" category. The whole sexual pervert community proves by the way they live that they have no idea what love is or how love works. When such folks demand that everyone should accept their sin and perversion as normal and modify existing laws to suit them, they should feel unloved. The amazing toleration and love Christians have poured out on these sick people is the only reason this crowd thinks they can bully the rest of the population into being an accessory to their sin.

22 posted on 08/03/2012 4:37:25 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is the Marxist’s revisionist bible.

I for one could not go to a CFA because there is not one in my state. But if I did—it would be because I HATE SIN—not people.....and I HATE the Marxist agenda of evil people trying to normalize pederasty and Vice again in Western Civilization when it was Christianity which put that destructive practice in the closet in the first place.

That is the only reason Christianity is targeted. It was successful in vilifying the debasing, dysfunctional acts which always centered around pederasty and were common in the whole world.

Read about the Leftist hero, John Maynard Keynes-—the sodomite who had boys at his homosexual orgies with his Fabian Socialist friends-—he even went to 3rd world countries to castrate the boys after they used them—for their recreation. This is the same economics guru WORSHIPPED by the left—his worldview was sick and perverted as is usual for one corrupted in childhood.

I have read and seen homosexual pornography-—(I researched pedophilia and serial killers and pornography and homosexuality and SA Brownshirts and their rampant homosexuality-—along with the homosexuals that founded the German equivalent of our Boy Scouts-—to sodomize boys in the woods).

I was writing reports in school and studying child development and raising 5 children (four boys) at the time. I was shocked!!!!! at what I learned—I was so naive-—I was shocked at how truly evil people can be since when I studied Hitler and the Nazis—they had left out so many details—like the skins on lampshades and the twin studies and sodomy by the guards and SA Brownshirts and the Hitler Youth.

The vile, evil, inhumane way homosexuals degrade other people and themselves (and call it “love”) is beyond sick and revolting. What they do is Satanic and goes all the way back to Occultism and is learned behavior.

There is an agenda—it is Satanic—and it means to kill God, particularly Christianity, which literally put Satan in the closet and created this country of Moral Absolutes with Rights from God. God goes—our Natural Rights go-—and then we get unnatural “rights” like sodomy “rights”—arbitrary laws—moral relativism which will destroy all freedom. Logic and Reason and Justice can not survive with arbitrary laws-—tyranny results. There is NO Rule of Law with arbitrary laws and moral relativism (Cicero).


23 posted on 08/03/2012 4:37:25 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He didn’t say anyhting about the gay kiss in. I wonder why?


24 posted on 08/03/2012 4:38:41 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is clearly a false teacher who masks his personal opinions behind his twisting of scripture to support his self-superior flavor of Christianity.

At best, Mr. Turner is a misguided believer like Lot who pitched his tent toward Sodom, Abraham had to rescue his nephew (and the sodomites) and then later intervene by asking God to spare the city. In the end, Lot lost his family and saved none of his friends in Sodom through his tolerance.

The best way to show love toward those damaged by sodomy is to call it what God calls it - evil.

Wednesday was a great day for the Church because truth was proclaimed, a message was sent that there are still many people in this nation who are willing to stand up and be counted when it comes to the open floodgates of evil.

The only thing disappointing is that we have not acted sooner and more assertively. We have allowed not only the open practice of perversion but also put vulnerable children into the care of these perverts through foster care and adoption.


25 posted on 08/03/2012 4:52:58 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: SkyPilot

EXCELLENT!!!!

Those Pharisees thought Jesus was a real meanie and he hurt their feelings. That’s why they wanted him dead, just like the Lib/Lefties of today. They can’t take the Truth.

This is all designed to shut us up. Poor dumb LBGT folks - beware of unintended consequences - You are all just tools for the purveyors of CHAOS.


26 posted on 08/03/2012 5:03:02 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://wannabeanglican.blogspot.com/2012/08/5-reasons-matthew-paul-turner-failed.html

Holy and glorious Prophet Elijah (Sveti Ilija in Serbian), pray to God for us!!!!

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Elijah


27 posted on 08/03/2012 5:18:29 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has this moron even read the New Testament? A real one, and not some liberal transliteration?


28 posted on 08/03/2012 5:36:09 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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I agree that the churches failed yesterday. They should have been telling their members to go to Chick Fil A.

Yeah, I thought that's where this article was going at first. Man, was I wrong. This idiot is a squishy whack job. He worships an effeminate metrosexual "Jesus."

29 posted on 08/03/2012 5:42:22 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Meet S. Truett Cathy, The 91-Year-Old Billionaire Behind Chick-Fil-A

Some history and historical pictures at the source link of this FR thread.

30 posted on 08/03/2012 5:43:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Mr Turner is right . . .

People (mostly Christians, but not exclusively) did feel hate.
Hate directed at them from much of the Press Corpse . . . from Academia . . . from Democrats . . . from sanctimonious gays . . . (most particularly) from Mr Turner.

Look to the beam in your own eye, Mr Turner.

31 posted on 08/03/2012 5:45:26 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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I think a more appropriate story is the kindness Abraham showed to Sodom, bargaining down that if just ten righteous men lived in Sodom, it would not be destroyed.

That’s love. Not condoning or accepting their sin, which is not love.


32 posted on 08/03/2012 5:46:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Jesus cleanses the Temple
33 posted on 08/03/2012 5:49:17 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Thanks for the article, 2ndDivisionVet
34 posted on 08/03/2012 5:50:02 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Talisker

A few months ago I ordered 300 bookmark tracts Titled: “49 Ways to Love God and Others”
This tract was published by: Basic Life Principles”
The it lists the 49 commands of Christ.

As I have meditated on these I have had to ask myself:
1. How can we love God if we do not know who He is?
2. How can I love my neighbor when I do not know them?
3. How can I keep His commands if I do not know them?


35 posted on 08/03/2012 6:22:09 PM PDT by Letmarch75
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, this is off topic, is Mike being vetted for VP? Anyone know?


36 posted on 08/03/2012 6:30:06 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Talisker

Bump


37 posted on 08/03/2012 7:14:11 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I take issue with this writer’s views. Gays feel “hate” if anybody disagrees with them. I’m sure that hateful things have been said in the past, and in isolated instances. However, taking a stand to say that we agree with Dan Cathy, for freedom of speech and for Christian values is not hate speech. The hate speech has been directed toward Christians who dare to speak out about the dire straight we are in morally. The Bible NEVER tells us to keep quiet so as not to offend. The Gospel is offensive to many. Truth is offensive to many. We have never been instructed to shut up in the face of persecution.

If we are guilty of anything, it is for not standing outside the SC doors after the January 1973 Roe vs Wade decision was made, and until they retracted it or the Congress overturned it. Many would’ve registered that as hate speech, as well. Any speech that is given in support of moral issues upheld in Scripture is considered hate speech by the likes of our POTUS, Pelosi, Reid, etc. Sorry, but supporting Dan Cathy was not hateful. He said nothing hateful, only that he felt that God had given the template for marriage between a man and a woman. This is opinion supported in Scripture. I do not support abortion. Does that make me a hater of people who have them? Nonsense! I think many who came out in support of Dan Cathy also pry for the gays to see their need of Christ, for people who do and have abortions to see their need of Christ. Does this make us haters? Not in God’s eyes, and His opinion is all that matters.


38 posted on 08/03/2012 7:35:41 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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I take issue with this article because it assumes (incorrectly) that everyone who supported Chick-Fil-A on Wednesday did so as a Christian. While I am a Christian, I did not go to Chick-Fil-A on Wednesday to support the traditional view of marriage. I went as an American to support the first amendment. All this rhetoric from the left (and the middle right) is doing is redefining the motives of people and assigning guilt as well as projecting erroneous attitudes on the participants.

This writer seems to have decided the intentions and motives of every Chick-Fil-A patron on Wednesday, passed judgment on them, and condemned them all in this post. Shame on him. Judge not, let ye be judged. Guess he forgot that little tidbit from his Bible.


39 posted on 08/03/2012 8:38:15 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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This guy needs to read the scriptures.

"And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." Jude 1:23


40 posted on 08/03/2012 8:47:50 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Psalm 139)
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