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Clear as Mud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tly8ZSyMGl0 ^ | August 3, 2012 | Michael Voris

Posted on 08/04/2012 12:38:39 PM PDT by stpio

Is this insane?!!


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: newyorkdiocese; obama; sourcetitlenoturl
President Obama is the main speaker once again at a well known Catholic fundraiser, the Alfred Smith Dinner. God help us, there's no faith left, their choice, the man goes against everything of Christ. Send a protest.
1 posted on 08/04/2012 12:38:43 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

Michael Voris does not take any prisoners! Wow! What do the initials behind his name stand for: STB?


2 posted on 08/04/2012 1:02:58 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: stpio
Far too many religious leaders (of all types, not just Catholic) are cowards. They will not stand up for what's right, but they do stand up for what's wrong, because they think it is important to be tolerant and non-judgmental.

Maybe they ought to read the Bible and get a clue.

3 posted on 08/04/2012 1:11:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Salvation; narses; Coleus; NYer; marshmallow

I am disappointed to hear this.


4 posted on 08/04/2012 1:12:56 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Something else must be at play here. Cardinal Dolan is no coward.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 1:14:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Ah! You think Cardinal Dolan is setting a trap? He's going to get Obama up on stage in a very public place and then BLAST him with threats of hell-fire? Cardinal Dolan will call Obama a sinner and encourage everyone to pray for his much needed salvation?

You think the brave Cardinal has something like this up his sleeve?

Or do you think it will be a pleasant photo op with smiles and laughs by all?

6 posted on 08/04/2012 1:23:09 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Even though is states otherwise, I don’t believe Cardinal Dolan knows about this.


7 posted on 08/04/2012 2:29:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I sent a mail to Catholic Charities of New York.

Here’s the link to Communications at the Archdiocese of New York. There are so many links, I wonder which one, if you want to let Archbishop Dolan know you wish him do do something.

Requests
*All requests must be sent via e-mail to: communications@archny.org


8 posted on 08/04/2012 4:02:12 PM PDT by stpio (")
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To: stpio
1) Let's call it what it is! It isn't “Social Justice”. It is **COMMUNISM**!!! With few exceptions the Catholic bishops and education leaders in American are communists.

2) If the Catholic Church's leadership were filled to the brim with real **men** like Michael Voris, I'd still be a Catholic today.

9 posted on 08/04/2012 4:09:20 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: stpio; afraidfortherepublic; ClearCase_guy; Salvation
As you can see, this issue came to light a few days ago via an article by John-Henry Westen at in LifeSite News, posted in FR (Link)

Westen turned up some very peculiar things:

Add to this the fact tha Dolan has already said straight out that Obama lied to him --- which makes it unlikely that he is at this point going to be a kissy-face or a total naïf, and i'ts in October, less than a month before the most dangerous Election Day in the history of the Republic.

So. What do I think?

Far as I can see, the only possibilities are

(1) Timothy Dolan is a traitor/out of his mind and John-Henry Westen blew the whistle on him, or

(2) Timothy Dolan is crazy-like-a-fox and is luring Obama into a confrontation, but Westen is a fool, and doesn’t realize this (I'll leave Voris out of it for now)

Or there’s always

(3) Dolan is luring Obama into a confrontation, Westen knows this, and Westen is playing along with “Oh, Noes!” to add to the drama/controversy, which pumps the publicity and adds to the impact of the confrontation; but we-of-little-faith (including Voris?) are not getting the wink-wink-nudge-nudge.

Or...?

I don't know Dolan to be a traitor or non compos mentis, and I don't know Westen to be a fool, so as of now ---- still baffled, to be sure --- I'm betting on #3.

What’s your best guess?

10 posted on 08/04/2012 4:12:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." 1 Corinthians 10:12)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

#2 or #3.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 6:22:01 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Sacrae Theologiae Bacculaureus—Bachelor of Sacred Theology. Means, he is educated about what he is speaking about.


12 posted on 08/05/2012 4:52:52 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: stpio

Thank you for posting this, stpio. I put these on an ipod and listen to them in the car, going to work. Listening to this one yesterday, I was thinking, this is a Vortex the freepers have to hear. Kudos to you, and to Michael, who’s spot-on again.


13 posted on 08/05/2012 4:55:14 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: stpio

Cafeteria Catholics come by it honestly.


14 posted on 08/05/2012 8:55:54 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: sayuncledave

“Thank you for posting this, stpio. I put these on an ipod and listen to them in the car, going to work. Listening to this one yesterday, I was thinking, this is a Vortex the freepers have to hear. Kudos to you, and to Michael, who’s spot-on again.”

~ ~ ~

I don’t get a chance to watch every one of Michael
Voris’...The Vortex but I notice he speaks more and
more traditionally...well, specifically about the
holiness of the Tridentine Mass.

Wouldn’t it be something at the Smith dinner if Archbishop Dolan spoke directly to the President about the Truth of God BHO rejects not in just a general way to the people there.


15 posted on 08/05/2012 2:33:05 PM PDT by stpio
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I pray Archbishop Dolan has something planned for the President, like speaking the Truth in front of the nation.

A door that’s closed, none of the well known Catholic in name only politicians present themselves to receive communion these days.

I received a form reply back from Catholic Charities.

~~~ ~~~

Thank you for your email. Your comment has been referred to the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation, which is the sponsor of the dinner.

The Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of New York

From: Data Systems Center
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 6:39 PM
To: CC Contact Us; Christina Morse
Subject: Contact Form Data

Catholic Charities NY -

Aug 4, 2012 6:38 PM


16 posted on 08/06/2012 11:39:13 PM PDT by stpio
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Michael Voris at The Vortex responds to the Archdiocese’s
response to the scandal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9Ap4MRl4I


17 posted on 08/09/2012 11:51:00 PM PDT by stpio
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New York Diocese’s blog response:

http://blog.archny.org/steppingout/?p=2525

and sign the petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/cdl_dolan_disinvite_obama/


18 posted on 08/10/2012 3:39:09 AM PDT by stpio
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