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Is It True Jesus Never Addressed Same Sex Marriage?
Between the Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Daniel Akin

Posted on 08/12/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

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To: fwdude
... the broader context of Jesus being God and inspiring the Song of Songs ...

If we go too far down that line of reasoning, we could claim that Jesus approved of King Solomon's "six hundred wives who were princesses and three hundred concubines," so get with the program, Christian men!

21 posted on 08/12/2012 2:27:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You're screwed, losers. Steyn 2012!")
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To: Tax-chick

“There is also His statement that He did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it, which incorporates, as it were, a great deal of Old Testament moral teaching into Christianity.”

Exactly.


22 posted on 08/12/2012 2:28:52 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Tax-chick

Well, there is a difference in recording historic events and expressing doctrine. But your point is taken.


23 posted on 08/12/2012 2:29:19 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

The truth is that we are sure that every word of Jesus was not recorded, only that which the Holy Spirit caused the authors of the gospels to remember. It was obvious to the Holy Spirit that homosexuality and marriage and “homosexual marriage” had been addressed.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 2:33:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Question: "Is It True Jesus Never Addressed Same Sex Marriage?"

Answer: It was not necessry as the conduct speaks for itself.

25 posted on 08/12/2012 2:36:50 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: stpio

He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. (Matthew 19:4-5)


26 posted on 08/12/2012 2:41:32 PM PDT by ladyellen
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Matt. 5:17-19. I think that pretty well answers it.


27 posted on 08/12/2012 2:46:02 PM PDT by MCF
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To: fwdude
I was exaggerating a little ;-). I think my main point is that human beings don't need to be told that we derive sensual pleasure from sex. Duh! What we need, and what we find in our religion, is guidance that places our nature desire in a context in which our sexual relationship can rise above simple mammalian copulation.

To the extent that our analysis emphasizes "It's good because it feels good," without considering a purpose built into our creation, we're likely to go astray.

28 posted on 08/12/2012 2:52:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("You're screwed, losers. Steyn 2012!")
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST; sgtyork; Tax-chick
The simple Scriptural fact is that Jesus Christ is God, and Jesus Christ is the Creator of the Universe (John 1:1-5).

He established Natural Law by which the Universe exists, the 10 Commandments, written with the finger of God, Himself, (Exodus 31:18) and the Law of Moses (Book of Leviticus).

Christ came not to abolish the Law but to fulfill the Law (Matthew 5:17).

Homosexual behavior and promotion thereof is directly proscribed in Leviticus, a proscription affirmed directly by the Apostle Paul (Romans 1) -- the student of Jesus Christ, and something for which God directly destroyed two cities, Himself, namely Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19).

Jesus Christ established Natural Law, gave us our first, and only heterosexual parents, Adam and Eve, even as He the Creator designed them, gave us the Law of Moses, affirmed only heterosexual marriage (Genesis 2:24, Matthew 19:5, Ephesians 5:31), and directly punished the perversion of practicing homosexuality (Genesis 19), even as we see Natural Law punishes the practice emotionally and physically today.

As Christ is the One who came to fulfill the Law, what more must one honestly need to hear about such a twisted notion as homosexual "marriage," unless one simply chooses to remain willingly ignorant? (II Peter 3:5).

Practicing homosexuals have been lying to themselves about themselves for so long that honesty rarely enters the discussion and willful ignorance invites the certain condemnation of Natural Law by their own choice. Paul writes that it is a sin against ones self and a sin against nature (Romans 1:26, 27).

Homosexuality destroys all that it touches.

Common sense is usually the first casualty, as one chooses to defy Natural Law.

That one needs an answer to such an obvious question, "Is It True Jesus Never Addressed Same Sex Marriage?" is evidence that the questioner does not recognize Jesus Christ as the Creator of the Universe and that He is the ultimate Law giver that allows this Universe of ours to exist at all (Colossians 1:16, 17).

29 posted on 08/12/2012 2:58:31 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

For those who never read the bible, they will listen to these clowns. For those of us who do read the bible, we know what it says and that these people are blowing steam.


30 posted on 08/12/2012 3:01:56 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Agamemnon
Is It True Jesus Never Addressed Same Sex Marriage?

Maybe it's because:

THERE ISN'T SUCH A THING!

31 posted on 08/12/2012 3:09:28 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Chode

Exactly. At the time of Jesus Same sex marriage wasn’t an issue.

The fags were smart enough not to push their sickness.


32 posted on 08/12/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: VRWCmember

Good reply.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 3:15:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Further when Jesus dictated the Book of Revelation to the Apostle John, He clearly stated that people who practice sexual immorality cannot qualify to receive His free gift of eternal life. This is found in Revelation 22:14.

This is also stated in similarly direct language by the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 5:1-7.

Notice that Paul includes coveting in his list in Ephesians, which he defines as idolatry. In Revelation 22:14, Jesus states that those who practice idolatry are also disqualified from eternal life.

Socialism, by its very structure, is built upon coveting and theft. Socialists cannot qualify for eternal life. Sadly the vast majority of churches in this age are corrupted by socialism just as the early Church was corrupted by Gnosticism. It should come as no surprise that there is a direct philosophical trail from Valentinian Gnosticism to the theologian Hegel and then via his dialectic to Marx and socialism. In other words, socialism is the modern secular form of the same spiritual values that animated people who were drawn to Gnosticism.

see the book: Gnostic Return in Modernity, by Cyril O’Regan

We are seeing spiritual warfare in secular form being waged against humanity before our very eyes.


34 posted on 08/12/2012 3:24:36 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

This Absurd concept was never in the minds of anyone until the last ten years. It is an absurdity on its face.

Now that is not the same as saying that the idea of marriage was not different in the past. Marriage for love is also a modern innovation.


35 posted on 08/12/2012 3:25:44 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Chode; CHRISTIAN DIARIST
It's true -- it was clear in a Judaean religious/cultural milieu that heterosexuality and fertility were the obvious goods. It was so obvious it didn't need to be constantly re-explained or re-negotiated.

As far as I know --- and somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- in Scripture there isn't a single instance of married, man-woman sex in the procreative form which is ever condemned, nor a single instance of sex in a non-procreative form, which is ever blessed.

So why do some Biblical-minded people support contracepted sex while drawing the line at homosexual sex?

Both contracepted sex and homosex treat fertility as a discarded option, a design flaw, a bug, not a feature.

I think that once you erode (via conraception) the implicit understanding that sex is connected to fertility and that that's a good thing, heterosexuality has been corrupted and homosexuality is the obvious next step.

36 posted on 08/12/2012 3:30:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious." George Orwell)
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To: scottjewell
That passage that two should become one flesh sure sounds like sex to me...your trying to deny the obvious meaning as much as gays do the man and women in the same passage/p>
37 posted on 08/12/2012 3:52:51 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: tophat9000

I know that Jesus approved of sex and the union of man and woman and saw it blessed. I just don’t think he was sex-focused as much as transcendent-meaning focused. Just my interpretation.


38 posted on 08/12/2012 3:58:22 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: VRWCmember
without specifically addressing the inconceivable concept of same-sex marriage

Probably not inconceivable to God, though.

Besides, there was plenty of homosexual behavior in the ancient world. They don't call ir "Greek love" for no good reason.

39 posted on 08/12/2012 3:58:59 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen instrument - the trumpet)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If every act of sex produced a child you might have a point....you make sex an after the fact sin if each act is not blessed by God with a child per act...Abraham had sex with his wife at an age he reason it was impossible to conceive...was that a sin?....is sex after change of life for a women a sin

Does a man divorce a sterile wife because its a sin to be with her?...if so King Henry the 8 in fact had a point with the Church

40 posted on 08/12/2012 4:20:05 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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