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* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
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Posted on 08/15/2012 4:53:30 AM PDT by rhema
This week ELCA Bishop of the North Texas-Northern Louisiana Mission Area, Kevin S. Kanouse wrote a blog (see here) calling those who support Chick-fil-A bullies and he blamed “preachers (?)” for people going to show their support for Chick-fil-A. This after the widespread temper tantrum and bullying from liberals and homosexuals against Chick-fil-A’s president for stating he believes in the Biblical view of one man, one woman marriage. Notice, too, that the ELCA bishop disparages the preachers by placing a question mark after referencing them, apparently implying that he questions whether they are true Christian preachers.
ELCA Bishop Kanouse mockingly wrote that the “faithful flocked to the chicken bastion of moral godliness to feast on chicken sandwiches. . .”
Later, Bishop Kanouse said, “In truth our country celebrated a national day of bullying last week.”
And Bishop Kanouse, proving that he doesn’t understand or respect Scripture much at all, made this statement, “. . .the bullied. That's another word, like homosexuality, that Jesus did not utter as recorded in the New Testament. . .” (read here)
One of the main points Bishop Kanouse tried to make was his belief that Jesus “would not have been inside Chick-fil-A. No, he was not about sit-ins and causes.” I say, that statement and thought is not an honest and true portrayal of the Biblical, historic Jesus.
Bishop Kanouse is part of a denomination which calls homosexuality “good.” Because of that, and the ELCA’s twisted view of the Bible, many in the ELCA do not like when Christians hold to Biblical Truth (and apparently when they stand up for one another when the world tries to bully Christians for their beliefs). You are wrong, Bishop Kanouse, if you think Jesus would not have supported the words of the president of Chick-Fil-A and the thousands of people who showed up to support the company who was being bullied for their Christian values. Jesus stood up for what was right. He chased the moneychangers out of the temple, he sternly warned others who were leading people away from God’s truth, and among many other instances, he supported the actions of Mary when her sister Martha complained about her.
Bob Russell said this in a blog he wrote, “Did Jesus condemn John the Baptist for speaking out against a politician? No. Jesus said “Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist” (Matthew 11:11) (read here)
After reading drivel like Bishop Kanouse’s blog and hundreds of ELCA articles like it, it is easy to see that the ELCA is a extremely liberal church that does not understand and in many ways despises Bible-believing, Christ-following Christians. Unfortunately many ELCA leaders also have a one-dimensional view of Jesus which changes Christ into a social justice leader and not much of a Savior.
Yes, liberal churches and leaders who opt for the idea of Jesus as social leader of justice movements do not arrive at the same conclusions as other churches or Christians:
Their very premise is different. They remake him in their own image and thus are arguing from a wholly different religious perspective.
Yeah, I left ‘Christianity Lite’ a few decades ago. Now I am not even sure about using a Christ reference wrt the ELCA.
From the article: One of the main points Bishop Kanouse tried to make was his belief that Jesus “would not have been inside Chick-fil-A. No, he was not about sit-ins and causes.”
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I seem to recall Jesus protesting certain Temple activities by physically attacking the money changers’ tables. I’d say Jesus was “about” causes, most importantly the cause of repentance of sins and the worship of the true God.
Unfortunately for ECLA, the Bible says what it says. There is no question that there is no such thing as ‘Gay Marriage’. This bozo bishop can say anything he wants, but it has no relevance when it comes to the truth. He is using the opportunity to advance his twisted religion he thinks. What he has done is relegate it a little more into obscurity.
The ELCA should lose their tax exempt status. They are not a church since they don’t believe in God. They are a political advocacy group and should be taxed accordingly.
The bishop? does not speak as a Christian/follower of Christ , but as a tare—as a seed of the evil one planted in the wheat field. He appears as that one spoken of in John 8:44. And will either repent or die in his sins.
So, has Bishop Kanouse also taken time to criticize Martin Luther King and Gandhi?
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Be rooted in Christ!
If the Response is approved by the synod's convention in 2013, the LCMS officially would no longer consider the ELCA (or XXXA) to be a Christian church body (that's what apostasy means), although there may be erring Christians still attending XXXA gatherings. XXXA baptisms would be considered as sacramentally worthless as faux-baptisms done by Mormons.
As the 2009 XXXA Church Wide Assembly wrapped up their meeting which had approved ordaining active homosexuals two days earlier, on Friday, August 21, 2009, Rev. Matthew Harrison, now LCMS President and a member of the Commission issuing the Response, answered a question on Issues, Etc. (at 9:16) from the host, Rev. Todd Wilken:
Wilken: “Is apostasy too strong a word to describe what we’ve watched over the last — better part — of the decade that culminates this afternoon in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America?”
Harrison: “No, it is apostasy. There’s no way around it. It gives me great pain to say that, but there’s no other word for it.”
I guess we Christian conservatives will have to quit bullying the owners and workers of businesses. - - - Oh wait, those were liberals.
Filth...glad to longer be a part of that apostasy.
make that NO LONGER
Well, Kevey, it’s sad you’re such a wimp that someone going to a restaurant makes you feel “bullied”. Man up, boy.
Joyous Feast! (Today is the Great Feast of the Dormition of the Theotokos).
A Christian Brother’s business was threatened by machine politicians and politically correct activists, just because he stood up for God’s truth. The livelihoods of thousands of his employees were also threatened. The good and charitable work (including for endangered children) that the Brother’s foundation does was also threatened.
Tens of thousands of Christian Brothers and Sisters came out to support their Brother and his business by patronizing it and by eating chicken. No placards, no shouted slogans, just ordering and eating chicken.
How is that “bigotry” and “bullying”? C’mon, liberals, cut the nonsense!!!!
As for the ELCA, its message is the very same as that of a liberal social service organization or a union. It is NOT a Church, and its “sacraments” are worthless!
If ELCA members want to hear the Word of Christ and to receive valid and potent Sacraments, they need to look elsewhere!!!!
Let's not forget Jesus never said anything about sex with animals either.< sarc>
That's what happens when prople focus on the red letter version.
Fact is Jesus mentioned Homosexuality in both the OT and NT. It's a little thing we call the Trinity and the idea that all Scripture is inspired.
I prefer the Orthodox tradition, but thanx to my RC brothers.
What’s an elca?
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E.L.C.A.
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With all the acronyms in the news these days, I shouldn’t have to Google ELCA to get it’s meaning.
But excuse my ignorance. WWWWW&H.
Living in MN, I have contact with several good Christian women of the ELCA. I am in a mixed bible study group of Catholics and Lutherans.
One of our now deceased members had a legacy in her will for the local ELCA church, but shortly before her death the ELCA came out endorsing Gay relationships and Gay ministers. My friend changed her will and withdrew the legacy.
Another friend told us this month that she and her husband have changed to a more scripturally based congregation which is not Lutheran. She and her husband had finally had enough of the riduiculously liberal actions of the ELCA, This was difficult for her as she was raised Lutheran, and it was like abandoning her heritage. But, she has been faithful to her parents’ faith, than the ELCA. In the end, one is either a faithful Christian, or one is not.
A third friend and her husband who are conservative are still attending the local ELCA, but while at their lake cabin near Brainerd, they attend a small, Mo. synod Lutheran church and they are enjoying the more orthodox Christian sermons. It will be interesting if they stay in the ELCA church this winter.
The ELCA has been practicing invidious sex discrimination, picking and choosing denominational favorites in its “how can we get the world to like us better” repudiation of Bible injunctions like those in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10: “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, . . . nor adulterers, . . . nor homosexuals, . . . will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Since extending its post-August 2009 welcome to Pastors Bjorn and Cindi, who solemnly attest they are in ELCA-approved “publicly accountable, life-long, monogamous” same-sex relationships with their respective partners, how can the ELCA deny the same effusive approval to, say, Youth Pastor Joey, who vows that his fornication with live-in girlfriend Tammy will be life-long and monogamous? Marriage is so yesterday, say these thoroughly modern sophisticates and their circle of friends.
Similarly, how can the ELCA turn a cold denominational shoulder to, say, Pastor Ted if he swears that his adulterous relationship with church organist Marjorie will be life-long and monogamous? After all, it’s not Ted’s and Marjorie’s fault that their balky spouses have refused to grant them a no-financial-strings-attached divorce, and those donations and membership numbers at Ted’s church *have* declined rather precipitously since the August 2009 ELCA convention.
(For that matter, how can the ELCA subjectively exclude from its pastoral ranks the unrepentant idolators, thieves, revilers, drunkards, and swindlers also named in 1 Corinthians 6?)
If the ELCA really wants the world’s unstinting approval it’s been earnestly seeking for decades, it needs to wholly expunge 1 Corinthians 6 from its Bibles and pledge total fealty to the world’s “there’s no sin in any kind of consensual sex” creed. It’s clearly time for another sin-whitewashing, Bible-bowdlerizing, let’s-be-even-more-inclusive ELCA convention vote.
The next step for the liberal protestant clubs (NOT “churches”) is polygamy and “open marriage”.
But the REAL question is whether and when large numbers of their members will “come to themselves” (as in the parable of the Prodigal Son) and return all the way home to the Orthodox Church!!!!
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