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Promoting Sin in the ELCA
Exposing the ELCA ^ | 8/16/12 | Dan Skogen

Posted on 08/16/2012 5:38:07 AM PDT by rhema

“Grace is not your average Lutheran church,” so says the ELCA’s Grace Lutheran Church in a Houston, TX. I say that isn't necessarily so. I believe Grace Lutheran gives us a picture of what many ELCA churches ARE like and what most ELCA churches will be. And it’s time that all the Midwest ELCA churches, rural ELCA churches, head-in-the-sand churches and members everywhere understand what the ELCA has become.

Let me tell you about Grace Lutheran. Their church website recommends giving kids a children’s book about homosexual marriage. The book is called Donovan’s Big Day. One of Grace Lutheran's church bloggers says that this “. . .picture book celebrates gay marriage in a delightful way through the eyes of a young child and would make a wonderful gift for kids and adults alike.” (see here) For those of you that are not concerned about this, one thing you should know (among many things) is that studies show promoting homosexuality to children will result in a greater likelihood of homosexual experimentation. (read here) But that isn't a problem for most ELCA churches because homosexuality is not a sin in the ELCA.

On the “wedding” page for Grace Lutheran we learn “On May 22, 2005, by vote of the congregation of Grace Evangelical Lutheran Church, the congregation adopted a policy stating that ‘The blessing of same-gender unions may be performed at Grace Evangelical Lutheran Church. Grace’s wedding guidelines will apply equally to all gender combinations.’” (see here)

Grace Lutheran’s pastor, Lura N. Groen says that a few years ago “the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) would not ordain pastors like me, who were LGBT, and refusing to promise celibacy. So my ordination here at Grace was not recognized by the ELCA.” But “. . .the ELCA voted to change its discriminatory policy!” (read here)

Here is a church picture of an adolescent girl, apparently affiliated with Grace Lutheran, holding a rainbow gay pride flag. (see here)

Grace Lutheran seems to take great pride in participating in gay “pride” parades. Here are some pictures:

- Grace Lutheran representatives - men in skirts. (see here)

- Grace Lutheran pastor and men in skirts. (see here)

- Grace Lutheran participant in drag. (see here

- In this photo we learn that “Grace Fights 4 Equality,” “Lutherans like beer” and “Lutherans are sexy.” (see here)

- Grace Lutheran parade group picture. Some of the church signs say “Live love be fabulous,” “Grace Lutheran is family.” (see here)

And this is a picture, of which I can only assume, is Grace Lutheran draped in rainbow color streamers. (see here)

At the bottom of the Grace Lutheran Church’s homepage are some tags that the church placed there which helps to describe things about the church and what they are about. Some of the tags include, “gay churches in Houston," “ELCA,” "gay lutheran ministers in church," "lesbian wedding," "gay wedding," "ELCA Homosexuality," "GLBT," "GLBT Church," "LGBTQ," "LGBTQ Church," "LGBT Church," "LGBT," "church in houston that accepts lesbians," "church in houston that accepts gays," "church in houston that accepts bisexuals," "church in houston that accepts transsexuals," "church in houston that accepts transgender people," and "Reconciling in Christ." (go here and highlight the gray box)

Frankly, Grace Lutheran’s description of themselves as “not your average Lutheran church,” is less and less true as each day passes in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: elca; homosexualagenda; lutheran; moralabsolutes

1 posted on 08/16/2012 5:38:20 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

Disgusting... and sad.


2 posted on 08/16/2012 5:42:37 AM PDT by AskNotReceiveNot
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To: lightman; SmithL; Honorary Serb; WorkingClassFilth
Frankly, Grace Lutheran’s description of themselves as “not your average Lutheran church,” is less and less true as each day passes in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

And Bishop Hanson's stamp and blessing are all over this licentiousness. What a legacy he's leaving the Ichabod Lutheran Church in America.


3 posted on 08/16/2012 5:43:14 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

Apparently, the individuals leading this church have never bothered to read scripture.


4 posted on 08/16/2012 5:45:46 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: rhema

Goodbye ‘Evangelical’ Homosexual church of satan!

Perhaps these evil churches could unite with the Episcopal church and have interesting outreach festivals. Sell raffle tickets with the congregations’s children being the prizes.

What would one expect when the pastor is an unrepentent queer who is just recruiting.

It IS INDEED all about the children!


5 posted on 08/16/2012 5:47:10 AM PDT by IbJensen (Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: rhema
The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some count slowness; but is patient with us, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

The Lord is long suffering, but judgement will come.

6 posted on 08/16/2012 5:47:14 AM PDT by Obadiah (If Reagan had another son he would have looked like Paul Ryan.)
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To: MEGoody

Maybe they think the word “abomination”, means “something good”.


7 posted on 08/16/2012 5:48:36 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: MEGoody

They’ve read Scripture, but only to figure out how they could amend it to gain the secular world’s approval. The ELCA appointed “study commissions” which in the course of a few years managed to “discover” that the Bible doesn’t really say what it plainly says. Thus was paved the denominational path to a 2009 ELCA convention vote approving homosexual/lesbian pastors.


8 posted on 08/16/2012 5:50:02 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; AnalogReigns; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...


Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!

* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.

Be rooted in Christ!

9 posted on 08/16/2012 5:50:34 AM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: MEGoody

Just prior to reading your post, I was trying to remember the scripture that talks about men in the last days claiming sin to be virtue and virtue to be sin. Unable to quote the verse correctly this morning.


10 posted on 08/16/2012 5:51:02 AM PDT by Pecos ("We hold these truths to be self-evident ..... ")
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To: rhema

ELCA, just like the Episcopal Church, is hurtling toward collapse. People don’t understand that there is a rule in play here that is time-tested and proved: institutions that are not deterimedly conservative or orthodox eventually are taken over by the Left. They are determined, organized, passionate, clever, devious, underhanded and, in the end, the spawn of Satan. Those defending the institution, on the other hand, are naive and believe in fair play and erroneously and tragically attribute good motives to the Left in all encounters.

The corollary to the rule is this: the Left destroys and subverts every institution where they gain control. Thus, the turn ELCA into an advocate for sin instead of a force for good. They become the enemy of God and betray Jesus Christ every day of their lives over and over and over again.


11 posted on 08/16/2012 6:00:59 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: rhema
"Their church website recommends giving kids a children’s book about homosexual marriage."

They obviously have not read about the fate which Jesus said awaits anyone who would lead a child into sin. Milstone - Neck - Ocean.......

12 posted on 08/16/2012 6:20:18 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rhema

I’d be offended ... if I considered this a “church”. Best I can tell, it is just another “LGBT” advocacy organization. I’d bet money this isn’t even their most egregious departure from Christian doctrine.

False prophets abound. Same as it ever was.

SnakeDoc


13 posted on 08/16/2012 6:24:48 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: rhema
Then again, it gives a whole new meaning to "Ye shall know them by their fruits ..." (Matt 12:33). Haha.

SnakeDoc

14 posted on 08/16/2012 6:30:07 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: SnakeDoctor
The ELCA's apostasies abound. Click on some of the links on Exposing the ELCA's home page to check for yourself.
15 posted on 08/16/2012 6:30:07 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SnakeDoctor

The pressing question for Grace ELCA Lutheran Church men: “Does this skirt make me look fat?”


16 posted on 08/16/2012 6:31:47 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SnakeDoctor

That should’ve been Matt 7:16, not Matt 12:33. Oops.

SnakeDoc


17 posted on 08/16/2012 6:34:46 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: Pecos

Isaiah 5:20 “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”


18 posted on 08/16/2012 6:45:31 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: rhema
“Grace is not your average Lutheran church,” so says the ELCA’s Grace Lutheran Church in a Houston, TX.

After reading about 1/3 of that article, I'd say that is the understatement of the year. PUKE.

19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:48:55 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (RINO season is open. No limit. Make them extinct.)
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To: MEGoody

Thanks.


20 posted on 08/16/2012 8:31:01 AM PDT by Pecos ("We hold these truths to be self-evident ..... ")
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