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To: MNJohnnie
I find it odd that "the strongest supports of Israel" are jumping on the let's-force-Israel-to-give-up-half-her-land-to-Muslim-savages-who-have-vowed-to-exterminate-every-Jew bandwagon.

I find it odd that the people who have historically claimed to be the party of Christianity have thrown in with Democrats in rejecting Scripture and what God has to say about those who act to harm Israel and the Jewish people.

There are many oddities going on these days.

7 posted on 08/23/2012 5:56:33 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The two state solution has been in the GOP platform for over a decade. There is nothing new here.

What is new is supposed "conservatives" going into hysterics about it while staying oddly silent on the Democrats complete abandonment of Israel during the 0 regime.

8 posted on 08/23/2012 5:58:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Paulistinian influx this year. They claim they want to leave the Middle East alone, except to screw Israel


36 posted on 08/23/2012 8:57:44 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
I find it odd that the people who have historically claimed to be the party of Christianity have thrown in with Democrats in rejecting Scripture

Unfortunately, ever since the eighteenth century "enlightenment" G-d has been treated as toxic by all politicians, no matter how conservative. Pragmatism has been the name of the game for over two hundred years. Now we don't outlaw murder because it's a violation of the commandments of G-d but because "if everyone went around murdering each other society would fall apart." Even the movements against abortion and "gay marriage" don't invoke G-d but rather "rights" and societal stability ("if we allow gay marriage, our civilization will rot!"). As if G-d were completely peripheral to the issue.

Not a single American politician, no matter how "chrstian," conservative, or dispensational, will ever invoke the name of G-d when supporting Israel. And of course the "official" Jewish community kicked G-d out of the picture years ago, supporting Israel because of the Holocaust and "democracy" ("Israel's the only country in the Middle East with gay rights!").

You'd think that one day one good dispensational politician would introduce G-d into the conversation, but it never happens. I'd certainly like to know what cows them.

and what God has to say about those who act to harm Israel and the Jewish people.

Chrstians have historically simply appropriated "Israel" to mean their own nations. While dispensationalism is a strong counter to this, historically the other position came first. Unfortunately, the only chrstians who invoke "G-d" are usually the anti-Semites who think the United States is "Israel" ("America, the Bible Land!").

42 posted on 08/24/2012 11:46:50 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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