with all due respect, thinking Mary and the Apostles were regenerated on Pentecost is an example of the kooky theology one gets when one is not led by the Holy Spirit, when one’s own pride leads them to think they are going to find something in the Scriptures no one has found before.
Mary was declared by the angel to be FULL OF GRACE. does that sound like she was unregenerated?
Jesus breathed on the Apostles BEFORE HIS ASCENSION TO RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. Peter declared his belief that Jesus was the Son of God. does this sound like they were unregenerated?
your dismissal of the historical orthodox faith as having no force and of being unprovable assumptions is WEAK.
( almost as weak as the Greek gymnastics on Acts 2:38 )
the Bible predicts a time when men wouldn’t heed sound doctrine and instead would be led astray by false teachers.
hmm, the Bible is amazing, it proves itself as the Word of God every day!!
can’t get into tonight, but i NEVER GET TIRED of proclaiming God’s TRUTH, you shouldn’t either.
i am hoping hundreds read this exchange and decide to become John 17 Christians or 1 Corinthians 1 Christians.
some may have never been exposed to historical, orthodox, Biblical Christianity before, you may be included.
i am not sure where you worship, but i suspect it’s the Baptist tradition. i pray people flee this 16th century tradition of men and be added to the Church Jesus established.
let’s look at Philip and the eunuch, it absolutely proves baptismal regeneration and destroys the water baptism is an outward ceremony myth.
also, let’s examine why did Jesus command the Church to baptize?
If Mary was sinless, why does she need to obtain grace?
If, with child as she was, why did she think she needed a Savior -- even more so if, as some propose, she was a Co-redemptrix?
"And Mary said, "My soul doth magnify the Lord
And my spirit hath rejoiced in The God my Saviour." (Lk. 1:46,47)
"... let such as love the salvation say continually, 'The LORD be magnified.' " (Ps. 40:16b)
Well?