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[Flashback] Rodimer: Psychologist [Fr. Groeschel] Gave Me Bad Advice
Bishop Accountability Herald News | 9/4/2003 | Maya Kremen

Posted on 09/02/2012 6:19:00 AM PDT by marshmallow

The Diocese of Paterson is now placing some of the blame for an alleged serial abuser on a spiritual counselor who said he was fit to return to ministry.

The Rev. Benedict Groeschel, a prominent New York Franciscan friar and psychologist, treated James T. Hanley, during the 1980s, after Hanley allegedly abused more than 15 boys in a Mendham parish. Groeschel said at the time that Hanley's problem was alcoholism, not a tendency to abuse minors, according to Marianna Thompson, the diocesan spokeswoman.

The diocese removed Hanley from ministry in 1986, 10 months after Mendham parishioner Mark Serrano revealed that the priest abused him when he was a minor. Bishop Frank J. Rodimer then allowed Hanley to serve in an Albany hospital in 1987.

Over the past year, Rodimer has apologized numerous times for his mishandling of the situation. He said he would like to see Hanley in jail. He recognized in a statement that he was wrong to follow the advice given to him at the time.

Now, through his spokeswoman, he has pointedly named the source of that bad advice.

"'I acted upon advice given me at the time, and that advice all stems from Benedict Groeschel,'" Thompson quoted the bishop as saying in a private conversation.

Groeschel could not be reached for comment at his residence or his workplace. He is the director of the Archdiocese of New York's Office of Spiritual Development in Larchmont. He is also a professor of pastoral psychology at St. Joseph's Seminary, and the head of the Trinity Retreat for Clergy, also located in Larchmont. He is nationally renowned as a religious leader and has been called by some "the male Mother Theresa" for his work with poor children in Harlem. He has also counseled hundreds of priests, according to a recent......


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: groeschel
Found this from way back in '03, in the early days of the abuse scandal. Fr. Groeschel's recent controversial remarks make a little more sense in the light of this report.
1 posted on 09/02/2012 6:19:03 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Forgot to include LINK to remainder of article.
2 posted on 09/02/2012 6:20:12 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: marshmallow
His recent comments were that 14,15,16 year olds were often the seducers in homosexual relationships.

He soon apologized for his remarks and according to an article in the WSJ other friars said his remarks were due to a failing mental abilities.

Good as any excuse I suppose.

3 posted on 09/02/2012 7:26:54 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: marshmallow

Thanks for posting the live link.

The media is really after him.


4 posted on 09/02/2012 7:53:08 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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The Rev. Benedict Groeschel, a prominent New York Franciscan friar and psychologist, treated James T. Hanley, during the 1980s, after Hanley allegedly abused more than 15 boys in a Mendham parish. Groeschel said at the time that Hanley's problem was alcoholism, not a tendency to abuse minors, according to Marianna Thompson, the diocesan spokeswoman.

You would think that a long-term member of a religious order would recognize that raping a child is fundamentally a sinful behavior to be repented of, instead of an aberrational behavior to be "treated". Reading that Fr. Groeschel is a psychologist certainly puts his comments into a new light.

5 posted on 09/02/2012 8:14:30 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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Wow,Thanks for the link marshmallow.


6 posted on 09/02/2012 8:47:23 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Alex Murphy; marshmallow
"raping a child is fundamentally a sinful behavior to be repented of, instead of an aberrational behavior to be "treated".

Exactly.

The "framing" of homosexuality, as well as pedophilia/pederasty, has traveled an arc from sin to:

--> crime --> sickness --> orientation --> identity --> human right

(Over-simplified and in need of definition, but you see what I'm getting at.)

Many people in and out of the Church have attitudes scattered somewhere along this spectrum. This huge turning away from moral truth has caused incalculable damage.

This is not to say that psychology has nothing whatsoever to offer in terms of understanding healing human mental and emotional ills. But it must never be allowed to supplant or contradict the primary moral judgment.

7 posted on 09/02/2012 10:12:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The Holy Catholic Church: the more Holy it is, the more Catholic it is.)
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To: Alex Murphy
Reading that Fr. Groeschel is a psychologist certainly puts his comments into a new light

I'd go further.

If this report is accurate, it's clear that young men (and some women too) were abused precisely because of poor diagnoses and advice provided by Fr. Groeschel. He knows this and his conscience must accuse him.

That being the case, I'd day the strange comments which he made in a recent interview were largely self-serving and aimed at minimizing his own culpability in this scandal.

Recent times have seen a purging of high-profile Catholic talking heads, including Corapi, Euteneuer and Pavone. Fr. Groeschel needs to go join them and take his half-baked psychological theories with him.

8 posted on 09/02/2012 12:01:11 PM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: marshmallow

I’d day = I’d say


9 posted on 09/02/2012 12:02:18 PM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: marshmallow; Alex Murphy
Fr. Pavone and, I would argue, Fr. Groeschel don't belong on the same list of "priests gone bad" as Fr. Corapi and Fr. Euteneuer. There are big differences in these cases.

Fr. Corapi and Fr. Eutenauer were guilty of "grave matter" offenses: drug abuse, financial embezzlement, sexual seduction, sacrilege, mutiny against legitimate ecclesiastic authority. But in contrast:

Were his comments in the interview intended to be self-serving? That seems doubtful to me. They did him immediate, grave harm. They sparked intense denunciations of his views, and were directly repudiated by his religious congregation, by NCR, and in short order by himself. And his published comments brought on renewed scrutiny of his role as a psychologist, therapist, and consultant decades ago.

In many ways, Groeschel is well-loved as a holy and Christlike person, and was a man of intelligence as well. I use the past tense, "was," rather equivocally, since after his car accident, his month-long coma, and his strokes, he has gravely damaged capacity and may not be able to process difficult matters, especially ones where he's personally conflicted.

I don't want to pile on. I want the mistakes admitted, the bad practices repudiated, the lessons WIDELY learned, the virtues honored, and the man himself allowed--- in the name of decency and charity--- to retire in peace.

10 posted on 09/02/2012 2:38:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do not be rash with your mouth, utter not anything hastily before God." Eccles 5:2)
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