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1 posted on 09/09/2012 8:00:10 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

we got a lot worse than Mormans to worry about.


2 posted on 09/09/2012 8:07:50 PM PDT by dalebert
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I’ll take a Mormon president over a Marxist one.


5 posted on 09/09/2012 8:17:56 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Interesting


9 posted on 09/09/2012 8:27:03 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Who cares? We have this freedom of religion thing...


14 posted on 09/09/2012 8:39:40 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

Isn’t the Kabbalah part of Jewish Mysticism ? (as well)


21 posted on 09/09/2012 10:17:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

And since the dude in the WH is an avowed communist I am sure you will be posting about that soon too....no?


22 posted on 09/09/2012 10:19:48 PM PDT by Nifster
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I have a (can u believe it?) related question.

Where did Joseph Smith come up with the name Mormon ?


30 posted on 09/09/2012 10:29:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

It’s late and I’m about to nod off. Before I do I wanted to say Thank You for posting this article.

I like to learn more about various religions. I apologize for any threadjacking, if it appears that way to you. I think the recent peak from the DNC and RNC has politics burning through our brains and hard to avoid mentioning, especially since Mr. Romney is Mormon.

I have to say, though, If I only knew one thing about the candidates (THEIR RELIGION), I’d probably pick a Mormon as being the BEST in overall LEADERSHIP and MORALITY.

I think those two traits are very important for the role of President.

For those who criticize Mormons, I refer them to the Bible (Matthew 7:3) “Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

FEW understand that verse and it’s true meaning, based on a lifetime of personal observation.


47 posted on 09/09/2012 11:34:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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Joseph Smith came by his practice of the occult through his family, since his mother and father were deeply involved. The following is quoted in: The Salt Lake City Messenger, April 1999, #95, by Jerald and Sandra Tanner. “The evidence seems to show that Joseph Smith did make sacrifices to the demons. In an affidavit published in 1834, William Stafford, one of the neighbors of the Smith family, reported the following: ‘Joseph Smith, Sen., came to me one night, and told me that Joseph Smith Jr. had been looking in his glass, and had seen, not many rods from his house, two or three kegs of gold and silver… Joseph, Sen. first made a circle, twelve or fourteen feet in diameter. This circle, said he, contains the treasure. He then stuck in the ground a row of witch hazel sticks, around the said circle, for the purpose of keeping off the evil spirits. Within this circle he made another, of about eight or ten feet in diameter. He walked around three times on the periphery of this last circle, muttering to himself something which I could not understand. He next stuck a steel rod in the centre of the circles, and then enjoined profound silence upon us, lest we should arouse the evil spirit who had the charge of these treasures. After we had dug a trench about five feet in depth around the rod, the old man… went to the house to inquire of young Joseph the cause of our disappointment. He soon returned and said, that Joseph had remained all this time in the house, looking in his stone and watching the motions of the evil spirit –that h saw the spirit come up to the ring and as soon as it beheld the cone which we had formed around the rod, it caused the money to sink… another time, they devised a scheme, by which they might satiate their hunger, with the mutton of one of my sheep. They had seen in my flock a sheep, a large, fat, black weather. Old Joseph and one of the boys came to me one day, and said that Joseph Jr. had discovered some very remarkable and valuable treasures, which could be procured only in one way. That way, was as follows: –That a black sheep should be taken to the ground where the treasures were concealed –that after cutting its throat, it should be led around in a circle while bleeding. This being done, the wrath of the evil spirit would be appeased: the treasures could then be obtained, and my share of them was to be four fold. To gratify my curiosity, I let them have a large fat sheep. They afterwards informed me, that the sheep was killed pursuant to commandment; but as there was some mistake in the process, it did not have the desired effect. This, I believe, is the only time they ever made money-digging a profitable business.’ Mormonism Unvailed, 1834, pages 238-239; also reproduced in Early Mormon Documents, Vol. 2, pp.59-6


48 posted on 09/09/2012 11:38:23 PM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: NorthernCrunchyCon

No doubt Joe Smith was as thoughtful a student of Kabbalah as he was of the Bible and Egyptian hieroglyphics.


57 posted on 09/10/2012 6:25:55 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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I thank you for this astounding post. To sum it all up:

The historical record witnesses that Joseph Smith had some intercourse with at least three important manifestations of the alternative and non-orthodox religious traditions that blossomed in the Renaissance and post-Renaissance period, traditions sometimes labeled as
"the occult": i.e., ceremonial magic,
Masonry, and
Kabbalah.

I have read a lot about Mormonism for years, but nothing 'makes the case' like this link. In many ways it causes the thoughtful reader to not only to better understand the cult, but to understand it, and to even respect it!

58 posted on 09/10/2012 7:16:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Sheriff's Joe's findings: What Obama got from Hawaii, ain't what he showed us.)
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So some old 80s singer will read this and convert and make a comeback?

Mormodonna? Mormadonna?

Some people think Mohammed read Kabbalah as well.

Mohamadonna?

76 posted on 09/10/2012 3:09:55 PM PDT by x
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