Skip to comments.Do You Believe We Should Cast Out Demons Today?
Posted on 09/11/2012 10:03:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The following is an edited transcript of the audio.
Do you believe in casting out demons? How would you go about it?
Rev. John Piper Answers:
I do, and I think there is a steady state, normal way to go about it from 2 Timothy 2:24-26. And I think occasionally there is what David Powlison would call an ekballistic form. David doesn't think that is the normal way to do ministry, and we may or may not see things eye to eye there.
So I would say, occasionally you see a manifestation of demonic power that is so in your face and so possessive and controlling of a person's life that an extraordinary intervention and exorcism is called for.
I've been involved in one in my life-only one. But I've read about others and it is much more common on the mission field, of course, where you are moving immediately into places where they are more explicitly demon-driven than we are explicitly demon-driven here. The steady state, ordinary way of bringing people out of the clutches of the devil is described in 2 Timothy 2 where it says, "Teach with gentleness, correct your opponents in love. God may perhaps grant them to repent and come to a knowledge of the truth and be delivered or escape from the power of the evil one who had taken them captive." That's a paraphrase. So clearly in that passage, teaching and love and patience and God's sovereignty-maybe he'll intervene-is the normal way that Timothy is being told to free people from the will and the bondage of the devil.
I don't think in order to be seriously engaged in spiritual warfare (where you are freeing people from the powers of the evil one), you have to do exorcisms week in and week out. You have to be a faithful, loving, humble, and repenting teacher-a lover of people. Satan is a liar and therefore he will not abide truth. He is a murderer, and therefore he will not abide love. So if you are a truth-giver and a deep, self-sacrificing lover, you will win.
That text from Revelation 12:11-"They overcame the devil by the blood of the lamb, for they loved not their lives even unto death"-what does that say? You overcome the devil by the gospel, by believing you are covered by the blood. You overcame by applying and teaching and preaching the blood of Christ, and then by being so sacrificially dedicated to people's lives that you are willing to die rather than run away from a situation. When that happens, when martyrs covered by the blood loving people happens, Satan is defeated.
So there are lots of ways, at least the three that I'm describing here. This teaching way, this self-sacrificing, gospel way, and this occasional exorcistic way.
Demons are real, Satan is real, and every pastor should do a serious study of the devil and of his ways and of demons, and decide how he is going to deal with that. Because there is an attack on the church in various forms all the time.
Possession vs. Oppression.
I personally am going to try to cast out a bunch of demons come November.
Yes, starting with the WH and working our way down to dogcatcher.
Seriously, some you are going to cast out are probably oppressed evidenced by the extreme views they hold.
Interesting.. Two posts on this topic this morning by two different sources and posters.
Must be becoming a “hot” topic!
Is Zer0 a Demon? /rhet
“Demons are real, Satan is real, and every pastor should do a serious study of the devil and of his ways and of demons, and decide how he is going to deal with that. Because there is an attack on the church in various forms all the time.”
And every pastor who looks for demons in others should first look within themselves.
Lack of awareness of their existence is their greatest tool of influence.
Obama may be the anti-Christ himself. Well...either him or Hillary Clinton.
There’s one possessing 1600 Penn ave right now!
I have seen it. I am somewhat reluctant to talk about it, because I am am unworthy nobody, and what happened was all of God’s grace. But it is real, and it is true that faith as small as a mustard seed will give you a front row seat to the display of God’s power.
Um, ... nah! Let’s just let’em continue to torment people .... ?
I KNEW there was a reason 0bama removed all the mirrors from the WH. I did.
Does it work? At the height of the Catholic sex-abuse scandal (1978), an exorcist was made Pope. Before the news media and lawyers caught wind of what was happening, the abuse rates had plummeted more than 97% (1990). His successor (2005) is also an exorcist, a mind-boggling coincidence, if not deliberate.
Oh, boy, not the Arminian (God is not sovereign) vs. Calvinist (God is sovereign) controversy again.
The third site in your list says this :
One of the biggest and worst lies ever told in manmade Christianity, one that John Piper subscribes to and teaches, is that there is a place of interminable torment and punishment for sinners. Men think to find this doctrine in the Bible, but while it is something the carnal man would wish on others, it is surely not something God has ever said or that ever entered into His mind. He made creation as an act of His love. He so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son for it. We are His, bought and paid for by His blood.
Looks like that site does not believe God allows people to go to hell... who is the heretic really?
mark 16:17 and these signs shall follow them that believe; they shall cast out demons..
luke 6:41 and why beholdest the splinter in your brother’s eye, yet see not the plank in thine own
the greatest lie the devil ever conceived, was convincing the world he didn’t exist.
Not today. November 7th.
That is interesting, and you’re right, very odd.
First connect upward to our Lord and to Jesus. 2nd, ask for angels to be sent to the person who has spirits/demons attached to requesting the removal, conversion, of those spirits; 3rd, ensure that you don’t make a direct connection to the person. Praying for the rescue/conversion of the spirit/demon, not necessarily throwing out, which will be resisted mightly.
Where is the other article that was posted today?
Exorcism boom in Poland sees magazine launch
Thanks for the ping. Yes, I do believe we should cast out demons today.
The situation I was in was not that complicated. I just said what I said in Jesus’ name and God took care of the paperwork. Instant response. Never saw anything like it, before or since. The individual was totally transformed, asked me minutes later how to become a Christian. To this day it still amazes me how God intervened so aggressively, as though he would have used any flimsy excuse for a Christian just to reach and release this person. He is truly an awesome God.
“Oh, boy, not the Arminian (God is not sovereign) vs. Calvinist (God is sovereign) controversy again.”
What post were you referring to?