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1 posted on 09/15/2012 7:43:02 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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This guy writes like the last week suddenly has him thinking about this.

Try the last 20 years for me, personally.


2 posted on 09/15/2012 7:46:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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Pastor, I understand, but reeling from a muzzie hit squad and their murderous rampage? They have been doing this since they came out of the desert. Keep the faith, aid the weak, defend the innocent. Be calm in the Lord. He is with us. I think that is encouraging.
3 posted on 09/15/2012 8:00:44 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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It is time that those who call upon the Lord of Hosts implore His blessing on Israel.


4 posted on 09/15/2012 8:07:29 PM PDT by txrefugee
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Thanks for the post PB.

I've often thought that satan is using islam not just to get a lot of killing,stealing and destroying done but to instill in the world a fear and loathing of mono-theism..

Whenever the latest muslim outrage happens upon the public (at least here in Oz) people talk about 'religion' being the problem not islam.

The devil is getting a lot of mileage out of islam by using it to get the world to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Thanks again for your post.

God bless

7 posted on 09/15/2012 8:43:10 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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Thanks for Post!


8 posted on 09/15/2012 9:35:33 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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blah blah blah......your understanding and knowledge of history (let alone the Bible) is sorely lacking


9 posted on 09/15/2012 10:33:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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Pastor Bill, I see the point you would like to make in this sermonette, but I don't feel that it covers the main point. Your hypothesis is:

The Psalm tells us why the “heathen rage”. It comes down to two things, 1) a vain thing that they imagine, and 2) the leaders, the so-called “kings of the earth and their rulers”.

Is this what the Scripture says here? Let's take a closer and more precise look at it:

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?"

Firstly, there are two classes of humans (all of Adam) here. They are: (1) the humans whose God is The God of the Bible; and (2) the humans whose god is not The God of the Bible. Class 1 here is "the people" of verse 1, the People of The God. In contrast, Class 2 is "the heathen," worldlings whose god is the god of this age, Satan.

What humans belong to Class 1? I say that The Bible indicates this consists of two further subclasses: (A) the blood descendants of Jacob/Israel, who came under the Law, the first, Old Covenant; and (B) those professing faith in The Christ of the second, New Covenant.

Furthermore, these may be subdivided. Class 1.A is if two varieties: (i) religious, observant Jews, and (ii) secular, nonobservant Jews.

Similarly (but not identically) Class 1.B. comprises: (i) confessing, regenerated, following believers in Christ; and (ii) professing, unregenerated adherent believers in the Christian religion. These can be further classified, but for Psalm 2:1, this is not necessary.

On the other hand, Class 2, the heathen, could be classified on other bases, but not here as to relationship to The God. Looking into Psalm 2:1, it is not particularly the illogical, emotional, raging idolatrous heathen that are said to imagine/reason/logically conclude a vain thing -- it is The People who are said to be dealing with Jehovah with vain reasoning (humasnistic theology) rather than with believing, obedient faith! (Going forward, please note that the definition in the Koine of "Christos" is in English "The Anointed One," or just plain "Anointed" for short, as it would be "Messiach" in the Hebrew language in Psalm 2:2.)

Secondly, what is that vain thing they were imagining? It is the concept of agreeing both within their own national borders, and internationally as well, to break The Law of The Jehovah God which is embodied in the laws of their various constitutions and charters; and to throw out any restraints placed on their desire to institute a world government, just as before the language was confounded.

"And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." (Gen. 11:6-7)

Thirdly, who is it that is doing the reasonings (theology) of Christendom and Judaism? I believe it is their kings (and presidents) who are determined, and their rulers (religious figures and civil plenipotentiaries)...

"The kings of the earth st themselves, and their rulers take counsel together, ..." Fourthly, how are they conjointly convened to advance their mutual interests? It is those who "take counsel together against JEHOVAH and HIS CHRIST.

The only ones not in agreement with his are Class 1.A.i. observant, Messiach-loving (but God-blinded) Jews and Class 1.B.i. confessing, regenerate, believing followers of The Christ of the Cross.

So what is my point?

It is that we have allowed the ruling of the United States to be taken over by a numerically superior band of Class 2 heathen, leavened by a segment of Class 1.A.ii secular Jewish and Class 1.B.ii professors (but not possessors) of Christ; who will not come out, be separate, and 'touch not the unclean thing' (2 Cor. 6:17-7:1). The minor constituent of still-believing Christ-following representatives are generally over-ruled and likely not re-elected.

Therefore, not supporting Israel, and maddening the heathen (who want nothing to do with the christian principle of representative democracy, derived from the Protestant church polity of congregationalism), our godly motto "In God We Trust" has become a mockery to the world, and we can count on chastening instituted by The God when we bring His Name into disrepute, as He has chastened other nations that have abandoned Him.

Take it from there, Pastor Bill. Bring some preaching against The People who imagine a vain thing. The Muslims, the spawn of Ishmael (and Edom, and Ham, and Japheth) are only doing what they have been, long before Mohammed or Marx or Buddha.

With sincere respect --

10 posted on 09/16/2012 12:37:46 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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" These people aren't "right" in the head when it comes to rumor or inuendo "

More like they are possessed.

Can the " imagine a vain thing " be as the same when God says that since they believed the lie, that he will send them strong delusions ? or is it something else ? the lie ? is the lie that anyone can come to God in their own way other than Christ ?
11 posted on 09/16/2012 2:42:51 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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Every rational person knows that is Israel didn’t exist, these violent people would still be pathetic losers. Israel (and by extension the U.S.) is the focus for their rage because deep down they know they’re thoroughly incompetent and incapable of living amongst civilized people.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 3:34:53 AM PDT by driftless2
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Leonard Bernstein, “Chichester Psalms”, Second Movement


20 posted on 09/16/2012 9:16:20 PM PDT by onedoug
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