Suggestion of a married Jesus - Ancient papyrus shows that some early Christians believed he wed

Harvard Gazette ^ | 09-18-2012 | Staff writer Alvin Powell contributed to this report.

[Houghton M.]

Agreed. But she and her circle (Helmut Koester, one of her predecessors at Harvard Div) consider the Gnostics to be equally Christian and authoritative as the “orthodox” Christians, indeed more so, because the ones you and I consider the “original” and “orthodox” followers of Jesus, she thinks were big bullies who marginalized the splendiforous and holy Gnostics from their rightful place. Winners write history, dontcha know.

The Bauer thesis, claiming that the earliest Christians were actually the Gnostics and “orthodox” Christianity was the newcomer, has now been pretty well discredited,

except in intellectual backwaters like Hahvahd.

[Houghton M.]

Yeah, I know. Messy little details like Scripture coming to us through the Apostles and the Church (since Jesus didn’t write anything down, our only way of knowing about Him and His Resurrection and His Incarnation is through the Apostles and the Church. Just a minor thing, really.

Glad you have your personal experience to rely on. Is it possible that your personal experience had just a tad bit to do with Scripture?? Or did Jesus directly give you your personal experience, bypassing the Church and her Scriptures?

And if we don’t need to worry about little details like 2000 years of Church teaching, what’s to prevent Joseph Smith II from coming along with a new set of golden tablets to correct you with his personal experience about the New Jesus that we missed all these centuries?

Or do we all just huddle in different corners and caves, each with our own personal experiences of the Lord? Some of us believing that he was married, some believing he was not, some believing he rose from the dead, some believing he faked it?

[drpix]

"The earliest known copies of The Gospels are not from the 1st and 2nd centuries."

Don't bet on it! You have been badly misinformed: LINK

[andyk]

“Christian tradition has long held that Jesus was not married, even though no reliable historical evidence exists to support that claim,” King said.

So no evidence exists to prove a negative. Got it. Can I just say that I am extremely insulted by this crap?

[P.O.E.]

Oddly enough, the Coptic who wrote this papyrus was taken in for questioning about a parole violation.

But seriously, isn’t the Church the bride of Christ?

[irishtenor]

It is an incomplete fragment. The ORIGINAL said “Jesus said to them, “my wife, take her, please.”
That’s where Henny Youngman got HIS material!

[mbarker12474]

At least it indicates Jesus was straight.

(By the way, why should we assume that the Jesus in the manuscript is the Jesus of the NT?)

(And, by the way, why should we assume that the palm-sized manuscript is part of some gospel? And not, say, part of a movie script poking fun of Plato? )

[Red Badger]

You may begin rioting at 0600 hours GMT..........

[Buckeye McFrog]

According to the History Channel he married and moved to Japan where he fathered 23 children before deciding he was gay.

[grellis]

I’m going to have to look into hiring “undocumented citizens” to proxy riot for me, my plate’s full. Anyone know the going rate for paid rioting? Is that an hourly wage, or is it a merit-based pay scale? I bet some OWSers could school me

[trailhkr1]

According to the History Channel he married and moved to Japan where he fathered 23 children before deciding he was gay.

More like this..

[Red Badger]

From your link: Estimates for the dates when the canonical gospel accounts were written vary significantly; and the evidence for any of the dates is scanty. Because the earliest surviving complete copies of the gospels date to the 4th century and because only fragments and quotations exist before that,

[SoothingDave]

The four words that appear on the fragment translate to “Jesus said to them, my wife.”

...has an inner ear infection.

[GeronL]

Why am I not surprised by the source?

Blasphemous anti-Christian liberals

[Red Badger]

Can we start rioting and burning now?................I need a 90” flat screen TV to watch my NFL team lose.....................

[hinckley buzzard]

Agree. This is an interesting fragment of something, but to call it "a new gospel" and even give it a tendentious name, is absurd publicity-seeking and a disgrace to serious scholarship. That it is shamelessly perpetrated by a Harvard "professor" is no surprise, really, given the degeneration of their academic integrity over the last generation.

[5thGenTexan]

Now that I have been dressed down and put in my place, please enlighten me with your wisdom. You said:

Or did Jesus directly give you your personal experience, bypassing the Church and her Scriptures?

My first thought is to answer "a very personal experience". But, you have shown me the err of my ways. So, I guess I was really saved by the Church and her Scriptures, like Paul was on the road to Damascus, right? Or was he just more special than I?

You are preaching to and belittling me, but seem to not be able to distinguish faith from learning.

The Church is important. There we learn, have fellowship, support each other and combine our efforts in the ministry of the Gospel. The Church did not save me, Jesus did. And in the Church He provided us a place to be fed, nurtured and allowed to mature in His teachings while we await His return.

And I don't care if the Church did get some of man's influence into it's traditions or not. God has always protected the message of the Gospel, and will continue to do so.

[Robwin]

My scepticism begins: King, the Hollis Professor of Divinity at Harvard Divinity School...

[drpix]

The difference is clear, the 4th century copies of the real Gospels are widely ackowledge to be copies of text written in the 1st and early 2nd century. But the "scholar" offering this 4th century Gnostic discovery has no basis to claim that it is a copy of text written earlier.

[Varda]

“This is crap in terms of scholarship. “

Exactly, from an archeaological point of view this is worthless.