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Bill O'Reilly: Kennedy speaks — and the Catholic Church is silent
postbulletin,com ^ | Sep 19, 2012, 7:20 am | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 09/21/2012 8:42:15 PM PDT by annalex

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To: annalex

Culture and community and the United States of America are what was destroyed, the chance to suck money out of America will not be seriously threatened, the only real changes are, and will be, the methods and techniques.

Corruption and greed are part of what we are importing and breeding, and making ever more, a requirement of financial success.


41 posted on 09/22/2012 6:59:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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then it would appear the disfunctional Kennedys are.

No, because the Kennedys have nothing that they could teach. In order to teach something you need to know the truths that you are teaching. The Kennedys cannot take the place of the bishops, but the bishops miss teachable moments like this one.

Well, one lesson we can extract from this: that it is the Catholic People of God that need to pray for better bishops and then better bishops will be given us. We have some good bishops now, and their number is growing. If, on the other hand, the American Catholics let the pro-aborts to hijack their voice, then the grace of God will go to some other country, and leave this one.

42 posted on 09/22/2012 8:36:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: ansel12
ulture and community and the United States of America are what was destroyed

No, not yet. Young Catholics are better Catholics than the old ones; the pro-life positions gain in popularity; we are undergoing a revival of Catholic Tradition and -- all too slow -- our bishops recognize their lack of leadership. On a wider arena, we have the Tea Party that is, I think, succeeding in reshaping the GOP. Also not every immigrant is an economic one; some value American Culture and seek to absorb it. I am, for example, an immigrant, although as an asylum seeker from the Soviet Union I would have been here even faster without Kennedy Immigration act.

43 posted on 09/22/2012 8:43:00 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Wow, what a strange view, young Catholics are more democrat and liberal than even the older Catholics are and have been through our history, and it is already too late, the America of the past is already dead and buried, never to be seen again.

The 1965 Immigration Act ended the United States and turned us into this multi-cultural, multi-lingual, mass of humanity with nothing in common except economic interests.

Look at California, Catholic immigration finished it off, it ‘s future is the future of the city in Blade Runner, and it will never be conservative again.


44 posted on 09/22/2012 9:11:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

The most conservative several churches I’ve been to were in California, headed up by young priests, and attended to by young, fecund families.

I understand that a non-Catholic might bee a stranger to all this.


45 posted on 09/22/2012 9:44:25 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Personal experiences are nice, but they don’t change polling data and voting data, the facts show that demographics is destiny, and our future is only getting worse.

We already lost California forever, and the left plans on Catholic immigration taking Texas out of the running in time.

All statistics and data are available to everyone, they are not restricted by religion.


46 posted on 09/22/2012 10:03:12 PM PDT by ansel12
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I do not dispute your statistics; I am however a Christian man and as such I know that culture is made or destroyed not by the statistical units but by certain people lead by the Holy Spirit, whose number is few. In the Catholic Church, there is a revival in sufficient numbers that I was able to find a spiritual home both in California and now in Kansas City Metro. It just hasn’t reached all of the bishops yet.


47 posted on 09/22/2012 10:21:03 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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I don’t think that you realize the purpose of the 1965 Immigration Act, it was to erase America and American culture, and to replace it with exotic third world foreigners who didn’t know, and do not care how we had built the greatest nation in the world.

Protestants don’t vote democrat, they only voted democrat in 1932, 1936, and 1964, the left had to replace the American Protestant voters, or they would never be able to survive, so they changed out immigration laws in 1965.

Immigration means the democrats take it all and the past disappears.


48 posted on 09/22/2012 10:40:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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I agree on the purposes of every immigration reform.

Protestants don’t vote democrat, they only voted democrat in 1932, 1936, and 1964

So they voted for the New Deal and Kennedy's successor. As to 1960, the election was close and stolen anyway.

But again, the real issue is not statistics but leadership. Both Protestant and the Catholics lose votes to the left, and they both lose their flock to those without a pronounceable religion; that is a shame, and that is happening because we don't have solid Protestant leaders any more that we have solid Catholic leaders.

49 posted on 09/23/2012 7:47:09 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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Catholics voted for Obama, traditionally vote democrat (only straying 6 times), elected JFK with 80% of their vote and you choose to go after the Protestant vote of 1932, 1936, and 1964?

Catholics vote democrat, and soon, because of Catholic immigration, the Catholic vote will return to it’s normal place of NEVER going republican, all of America will vote like California.

Do you know how Catholic Hispanics that become Protestant vote? They vote more like Protestants.


50 posted on 09/23/2012 12:27:53 PM PDT by ansel12
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you choose to go after the Protestant vote of 1932, 1936, and 1964?

I don't "go" after any particular voter: the entire statistical approach of yours is ridiculous. Let's say Protestants vote 55/45% Republican/Democrat and Catholics 55/45% vote Democrats/Republic every time. So? It is your 45% that give us lefwing governments because your 45% is numerically larger than our 55%. Further, except for Kennedy ALL US Presidents were Protestant. If Protestantism automatically produces conservatism, show me Protestants electing a Protestant president that turns the country permanently rightward. Since Reagan you cannot, and blue collar Catholics voted for Reagan in numbers that proved decisive; it is Catholics who gave Bush a second term.

However, the Protestant vote of 1932, 36, 64 cannot be dismissed. These were Protestant-majority elections that gave us Protestant presidents who gave us the pillars of liberalism: the New Deal and the Great Society welfare system. Own them, as I, Catholic, own the disaster of the Immigration act.

This article illustrates, of course the failure of Catholic leadership, but the Protestant leadership in matters of pro-life politics is simply non-existent. Can you, honestly, imagine a similar article written about a nominally Protestant celebrity politician (that is, virtually anyone of them) standing up on any national podium and saying things like "I am Protestant and as a Protestant woman I passionately defend the right to abortion"? Of course not. So you are a Protestant woman who is pro-abort? Duh, we have whole Protestant churches for the likes of you; lady, you are not newsworthy. At least we have national leaders in the position to condemn the Catholic pro-aborts, and we have a national cadre of pundits in the secular media to call on them when they fail to do so. A similar disciplinary apparatus is not even possible under Protestantism.

I would agree with you that as a Protestant project, America is about to fail if it hasn't failed already: the upcoming re-election of Protestant Obama over Mormon Romney would dot all the i's still in need of being dotted. The blame for that is on the Protestant leadership which allowed it to happen. The future of America is bright because this future is also Catholic. We are not going to be minority for very long, and we are not going to jerk our knee at the mention of the Kennedys for very long.

51 posted on 09/23/2012 4:54:53 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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