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To: Biggirl
I found the book "Quantum Physics, Near Death Experiences, Eternal Consciousness, Religion, and the Human Soul" (I know, quite a title!) by William Joseph Bray to be an unevenly written and sometimes difficult read. But it offered the most reasoned and consistent explanation I have so far found for what this reality and physical universe is and is not).

One element in the book explains that any description someone might bring "back" after an NDE must be expressed in the limited terms of the tools at hand (the human brain and language) in this universe. We perceive and physically seem to "live" within a linear time frame that is created micro-moment to micro-moment by the act of our conscious observation and we have no words and only very rough analogous imagery that can convey the experience. The images of a tunnel, gardens, rivers, etc. are translations of things which cannot otherwise be described or expressed.

"Heaven" is not only real but is the timeless infinite from which the observation is made. Another point he makes (the writer is a Christian) is that the only human religion which is 100% for certain NOT true is Atheism.

11 posted on 10/10/2012 7:26:10 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: katana

That is why I took so much confort after my SO or longtime boyfriend, David, had died last month the children’s version of the book “Heave is for Real” for children, which has wonderful picture drawings as Colton Burpo when he was a little kid discribes.

A friend of mine in the music ministry has given me the adult version of the book, “Heaven is for Real” to read.


16 posted on 10/10/2012 7:44:07 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: katana
Our physical existence is designed such that we sense nothing int he actual present of the event. An easy example is the starlight the eye receives when you look into the clear night sky. Because we sense only past events, our brain 'holography' projects a coherent flow to the events we collect data over, and convinces our soul (the none physical part of our life) that we are flowing with time.

The human conceptualization of dimension Time may be the problem which holds us back from conceptualizing a better notion of wht it means to be 'alive' ... the soul exists in a 'greater-than-linear' spacetime reality yet is fed data collected from a linear temporal framework of our perception, even though events are occurring in a greater-than-linear spacetime reality. The data feed is so loud that our soul is tricked into believing reality is a linear progression, yet we have an aspect of each of us which exists in 'greater-than-linear' reality.

As Alamo_Girl is known to write, without space things do not exist, and without time events do not occur. Just imagine what 'things' and 'events' are possible in a reality which has temporal expressions of planar and volumetric expression alongside linear temporal expression!

17 posted on 10/10/2012 7:45:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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