Posted on 10/24/2012 2:03:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Colorado evangelical pastor Ted Haggard, who was involved in a sex and drug scandal six years ago, appears to have changed his earlier position against same-sex marriage.
In an online debate, he said while biblical law is against homosexual marriage, the state should allow it. "We've reached a point where human dignity and mutual respect is so important," Haggard said in a recent online debate with Rabbi Benjamin Hecht, director of Orthodox Jewish think tank Nishma.
Responding to the question, "Should same-sex marriage be allowed by the state?" he went on to say, "If someone is dealing with same-sex attraction or homosexuality, and they want someone to be their life partner of the same gender, though we would oppose that in our churches, it should be allowed by the state."
Haggard shared this view during the debate, hosted on deeyoon.com, while maintaining that God intends marriage to be between a man and a woman. He said the roles of the state and religious communities are different. "The state's role is to protect people equally," he emphasized.
In January, when Haggard appeared on an episode of ABC's "Wife Swap," he said he was "hesitant" about same-sex marriage. He said he was against gay marriage and rewriting the traditional definition of marriage, but that he was in favor of allowing civil partnerships and welcomes everyone into his church.
Haggard, previously the head of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), was also pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, the 14,000-member church he helped found. He was forced to resign from both positions after a gay prostitute came forward in 2006 and alleged that Haggard had paid him for sex and illegal drugs for three years.
Good thing no one listens to this fagot.
Murder isn't biblical.
Stealing isn't biblical.
Rape isn't biblical.
Beastiality isn't biblical.
Wow.... Satan claims another one.
RE: Incest isn’t biblical.
In the United States the District of Columbia and every state, except Rhode Island, have some form of codified incest prohibition.
New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are 18 years of age or older.
Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces if they are part of a community, such as orthodox Jews, for whom such marriages are permitted. Many states also apply incest laws to non-blood relations including stepparents, step-siblings, and in-laws
RE: Beastiality isn’t biblical.
I am not aware of any anti-bestiality laws in the US. Maybe someone can point me to the right source...
“We’ve reached a point where human dignity and mutual respect is so important,”
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Splain to me please: what is dignified about Oral sex, packing the fudge, fisting, using objects that resemble the human penis and cigars on women ,while practicing mutual masturbation, then please: tell me why I should respect those that do these things.
and people should listen to the cretin, why?
STFU.........Ted. Go away.
Just ask Anne Barnhardt about the “Happy Jesus Rock n’ Roll churches”...
heh heh heh
She has been vindicated time and again, her opinions on the current issues in the church should be required reading for freepers.
Ted Haggard clearly does not seekshalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
salvation from the creator of the universe:
YHvH
This nation was intended on being a Republic, where our laws were first and foremost based on the Bible.
Served an apprentiship with a guy, who years later EARNED himself the nickname DogBoy. You can figure out how he earned the name. I believe he was brought up on animal abuse charges.
>>>”The state’s role is to protect people equally,” he emphasized.>>>
Who protects the children adopted by same-sex couples? Children need a mother and a father in order to learn what they need to know to be successful in the world.
Hes a fag.
He’s a fag and that’s what fags say. Is his dingbat wife still in denial?
Marriage goes way beyond “Biblical.” Think about how different the following cultures are:
European
Native American
Tribal African
Middle Eastern
Chinese
Japanese
Indian (Asian)
Polynesian
Korean
Different religions, different history, different everything. Well, almost everything. They all do have one thing in common. For their entire history (we’re talking thousands of years) they have defined marriage as between males and females. NEVER have any of these cultures defined marriage as between two people of the same sex—never.
Maybe we should ask ourselves why these vastly different cultures all came to the same conclusion about marriage before we make major changes in the institution.
RE: For a “pastor” to call for something unbiblical to be legal is just preposterous.
Well what to say...
Let’s forget gay marriage for a moment....
Homosexual sex is an abomination to God. Should Christians support laws that criminalize gay sex?
It is in fact Unbiblical to worship any other God but YHWH ( The very first commandment, upon which all other commandments stand)... But worshipping other gods is legal in the United States.
I think that's a matter best left to the states. And right now most of them don't seem to agree with Haggard on this.
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