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To: Dutchboy88

“There was no such thing as a RCC when the Bible was completed”

Which raises four questions.

One, when did the Catholic church form?

Two, when was the Bible completed?

Three, who was responsible for founding the Catholic church?

Four, who was responsible for completing the bible?


43 posted on 11/01/2012 2:54:15 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge
"One, when did the Catholic church form?

Two, when was the Bible completed?

Three, who was responsible for founding the Catholic church?

Four, who was responsible for completing the bible?'

Notice all of the questions (except perhaps #2) are more or less rhetorical, aimed at defending your organization. But, here goes...

1. If you mean the RCC, then as late as Augustine (circa 390AD) there were arguments about whether the so-called bishop of Rome was in charge. Sadly, even Augustine rolled over. But, this is approx. when Rome shoved its foot in the door. All the tripe about Peter is utter nonsense. Find any reference to him being named a "Pope" in the Scriptures and I'll send you to Rome all expenses paid. The Matt. 16 citation is simply Peter's confession that Jesus was in fact the Messiah of Israel, the Son of Yahweh. Notice, little rock Peter, massive bedrock Recognition of Jesus. Five verses later Jesus says Peter is acting like Satan. No Pope...sorry.

If you mean "catholic" as in "universal", then the universal "church" of Christ was formed as Jesus added the elect to His family. One cannot tell from the text the precise moment Jesus began to build His Assembly. It may have been while He was speaking. But, it likely now includes Adam, if he was among the elect, and Abel, possibly not Cain, etc.

The reference to Him creating His "assembly" and calling this a "Church" is yet another mangling of the text. There is no such word as "Church" in the text. If you don't believe me, read any decent Greek text and see for yourself. The term "assembly" was morphed into a Scottish word Kirk, and later church. Jesus referred to His gathered assembly of all believers. You are in this by virtue of Him choosing you...if you are among the elect.

2. The Bible was completed circa 91AD by the last entries of the apostle John. No exact date is available.

3. I suspect some pretty odd fellows are responsible and I'd like to see them brought to justice, kind of like the Benghazi fiasco. If you come across them, let us know.

4. The people responsible for completing the Bible are the Jewish writers, such as Moses, David, Solomon, the Prophets, and other Jewish men. The Jewish Scriptures do reference men who were considered Pre-circumcised believers (like Abram/Abraham, etc.), but they were not writers. The writers of the NT were the three Jewish gospel writers, Luke (the only Gentile writer), the Jewish fisherman Peter, James (brother of Jesus), Jude, and principally Paul, a Jewish Pharisee. Notice...no RCC. Let go of the ego grease.

47 posted on 11/01/2012 3:55:32 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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