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To: usconservative
"Nice try! By the Church LEADERSHIP failing continuously to address the problems posed by the CINO's, the Church LEADERSHIP has itself failed to maintain it's influence, period."

Nice try, but the Church is a voluntary organization whose membership is predicated in being in Communion with her. Those who have walked away from their Church in favor of secularism are not going to heed the advice or admonishments of the bishops anymore than those who have walked away from their Church to become Evangelicals or Mormons.

Blame it on the Reformation. When it became common and acceptable for some to reject Church teaching in favor of a contrived belief system or heresy every other rejection of the Church became acceptable and routine. When one can judge for themselves what is right and what is wrong you not only get 33,000+ denominations, but millions of individual heresies as well, all equally invalid.

Peace be with you

35 posted on 11/08/2012 1:02:11 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law; what's up
Dear Natural Law,

As the Catholic Church was instituted by Jesus, not even if nearly every bishop espoused outright formal heresy would I be persuaded to leave her.

But unfortunately, most American bishops are part-time Catholics and full-time Democrats.

As the poster what's up points out a couple of posts above yours, if it weren't for the funding of abortion and the HHS mandate, most all the bishops would be fine with Obamacare.

Bad bishops are a bad reason to leave the Church.

But unfortunately, we have a surplus of these bad reasons.


sitetest

36 posted on 11/08/2012 1:18:18 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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