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To: wideawake
The Church's actual positions are: (1) That the immigration system, which is clearly broken, needs to be reformed on a basis that respects the dignity of the human person. (2) That there needs to be a system of social support for the needy and helpless. If that basic minimum can be supplied by more efficient use of taxes rather than increasing them, the Church could never have any objection. (3) That life in prison without parole is preferable to the death penalty. The Church is not against punishing criminals, but generally against the state killing its citizens.

This church does not have authority from God to strip me of my God given rights. But hey it was elected liberal Catholics that gave Obama his deathcare act. The pope is for universal healthcare, and by definition from this modern age would be birth control in whatever form a liberal decides they are willing to fund.

I do not want this nation turned into Mexico for the so called sake of 'dignity of the human person'. When in fact what is being done is filling empty pews and begging baskets and mandating the rest of US to fund their healthcare and their education.

22 posted on 11/09/2012 8:17:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
This church does not have authority from God to strip me of my God given rights.

Which rights, in particular, do you consider to be stripped?

But hey it was elected liberal Catholics that gave Obama his deathcare act.

I'm not sure why the existence of apostate Catholics is an excuse for the Catholic Church to sit by in silence on moral issues.

The pope is for universal healthcare

That's a mischaracterization.

and by definition from this modern age would be birth control in whatever form a liberal decides they are willing to fund.

Hence the Church's view that "universal healthcare" as it is conceived today is flawed.

I do not want this nation turned into Mexico for the so called sake of 'dignity of the human person'.

The number one reason why the US would be "turned into Mexico" is Americans contracepting and aborting their next generation of descendants.

There would be no "immigration crisis" if Americans believed enough in America to populate it.

When in fact what is being done is filling empty pews and begging baskets and mandating the rest of US to fund their healthcare and their education.

In point of fact, Mexicans living in the US are not particularly avid churchgoers or contributors. Mexico is an aggressively secular nation - just because someone comes from Mexico is hardly a guarantee that he is a believer.

25 posted on 11/09/2012 9:39:27 AM PST by wideawake
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