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How Barack Bamboozled Catholics
Real Clear Religion ^ | November 9, 2012 | George Neumayr

Posted on 11/10/2012 8:42:39 AM PST by NYer

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The parable is about spiritual things, not money. Like many of the parables, it is at first mysterious and puzzling, and then, Aha!


21 posted on 11/10/2012 9:14:00 AM PST by firebrand
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The "white Catholic" vote went for Romney 56-43. That's not very different from the overall Protestant

Protestants include a number of minorities so the the "white, Protestant" vote would have been even higher.

22 posted on 11/10/2012 9:15:15 AM PST by what's up
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And the silence of many priests added to the problem.

Didn’t hear or read a word from our pastor regarding the election at any time this year.


23 posted on 11/10/2012 9:15:33 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: NYer

Catholics beg to be bamboozled.


24 posted on 11/10/2012 9:15:39 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: stop_fascism
It's interesting that in the figures based on frequency of attendance they didn't break out Hispanics as a separate group. Based on the attitudes of the Hispanic folks I see at Mass every week, I think it's safe to say that the Catholics who voted for Barry were at least 80% those who seldom if ever attend Mass no matter what other group they might be a part of.
25 posted on 11/10/2012 9:23:09 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: NYer

“The Way is narrow.” And a lot of people, not willing to go down the Way, will still tell you they drew a map of the Way just in case.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 9:25:02 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: al_c

Didn’t hear or read a word from our pastor regarding the election at any time this year.


And here’s what happened to one diocese that DID speak out

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20121108/GPG0101/311080394/Green-Bay-diocese-s-tax-status-challenged-after-bishop-s-pre-election-remarks?nclick_check=1


27 posted on 11/10/2012 9:25:08 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: NYer

obama did not receive one Catholic vote .


28 posted on 11/10/2012 9:25:49 AM PST by heavy9 (heavy 9)
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Had a conversation with a Romney-supporting regular-mass-attending friend about another Catholic friend who doesn’t support the Second Amendment. He started to say something, and then stopped, so I finished the statement for him: She’s one of those liberal Catholics. He nodded.

Even this friend who is so loyal to the Church and so loath to say anything that will defame the Church had to admit it: The Church is wrong to be liberal on so many issues.


29 posted on 11/10/2012 9:25:55 AM PST by firebrand
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To: NYer

Not duped. They knew what they were doing.


30 posted on 11/10/2012 9:27:18 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: firebrand

Go to an average Catholic Mass and pick the over/under on how many times the term “Social Justice” will be mentioned.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 9:28:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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I wonder how much the HISPANIC vote attributes to this. Wonder how he did with white Catholics.

Well, article says Hispanic Catholics went to Obama 75-21%; and Pew Forum exit polls say white Catholics went Romney 59-40%.

(Btw, in pre-election polling, Pew Forum said Latino Catholics were favoring Obama 73-19...so 75-21 sounds right...and that Latino Evangelicals, who are 14% of Latinos, were favoring Obama 50-39...so it's not only the Latino culture that is problematic...there is something about Catholic culture as well...'cause Latino Catholics favor same-sex marriage -- 54-31%...whereas Latino Evangelicals disfavor same-sex marriage 25-66%...So, what is wrong with Latino Catholic culture that is having a much greater drag, social issues wise, than other Latino religious sub-cultures? And, btw, the problem here isn't only with Latino Catholics...white Catholics favor same-sex marriage 53-37%...so that's 54% of Latino Catholics vs. 53% of white Catholics...showing us that it's the Catholic culture itself that is, in part, corruptive...)

October 2012 Pew Forum source: Latinos, Religion and Campaign 2012: Catholics Favor Obama, Evangelicals Divided

32 posted on 11/10/2012 9:28:54 AM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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I’ve NEVER heard the term in my parish.

I’ve only heard the term from Jesuits, which does little to break the stereotype there.


33 posted on 11/10/2012 9:32:27 AM PST by Shadow44
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I wish we had not allowed the other side to frame the issue linguistically on this. “Social justice” should really be “income equality” or “income redistribution.”

They love that word “social.” Even Social Security is not social security—it is financial security. Millions of older people are living alone, with no family around them and few friends, while the SS checks come faithfully in and their families rest content that they don’t have to worry about them. Social Security has done more to destroy our social framework than any other program.


34 posted on 11/10/2012 9:35:43 AM PST by firebrand
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To: massmike
So believe me...THIS Catholic isn’t defending catholics like her AT ALL!""""""""..........

Thank you. You told us much of what she said. I sure would have liked to hear what you said back. lol

I have weeded out a few "friends" acquaintances, starting in 2008. I tell them to their face how detestable their thinking is......

35 posted on 11/10/2012 9:37:41 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Rashputin; stop_fascism; All
It's interesting that in the figures based on frequency of attendance they didn't break out Hispanics as a separate group. Based on the attitudes of the Hispanic folks I see at Mass every week, I think it's safe to say that the Catholics who voted for Barry were at least 80% those who seldom if ever attend Mass no matter what other group they might be a part of.

Re: this last sentence...not so...CNN exit polls said that the vote breakdown of people who attended church weekly was 59-39% Romney.

That's about 2 out of every 5 who went Obama's way.

Given that black Protestants were what I estimate to be about 43% of the overall Protestant vote, yeah, I'm sure that blacks were 2.5 times the number of other groups to represent that 39%...But that still leaves a LOT of others -- Latino Catholics, white Catholics, and white Protestants, who were also part of that figure.

37 posted on 11/10/2012 9:42:21 AM PST by Colofornian (Some say "we're not voting 4 'pastor-in-chief'" --as if "gods-in-embryo" were divine only on Sundays)
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I guess we'll start seeing a constant stream of posts about how bad even Conservative Catholics are now that Mormons aren't the target.

I'm sure the fascist fifth column wouldn't want to see Ryan or Santorum in the limelight come 2016 without first making sure someone had “educated” the masses so they know to stay home rather than voting if there's a Catholic on the ticket in 2016.

38 posted on 11/10/2012 9:42:54 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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**Such bishops served as useful idiots for Biden, who used a campaign commercial featuring images of a crucifix to sell voters on the idea that the Obama administration embodied Catholic social justice.**

They lied. This is not social justice from the Catholic point of view.


39 posted on 11/10/2012 9:45:23 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: massmike

Funny that when we read about something like this, it’s against the Catholic Church and not the countless churches that support Obama.


40 posted on 11/10/2012 9:51:10 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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