[RobbyS]

If we could be sure he will be. It works rather well in Germany, which has no death penalty , but keeps murderers locked up. Here our rights-based legal system constantly works to get them out, and we have so many prisoners that the state less careful about letting them loose

[JCBreckenridge]

“If we could be sure he will be. It works rather well in Germany, which has no death penalty , but keeps murderers locked up. Here our rights-based legal system constantly works to get them out, and we have so many prisoners that the state less careful about letting them loose.”

I’d much prefer that tradeoff - no death penalty - no release. Life should mean life.

[sitetest]

Dear RobbyS,

From wiki, concerning the penalty for murder in Germany:

“The penalty for Mord is lifelong imprisonment, which is usually suspended after 17–18 years (15 years minimum) on a probation of 5 years or if the court decided on a special gravity (Feststellung der besonderen Schwere der Schuld), the sentence can only be suspended much later, earliest after 18 years but usually after 22–23 years (the law states that a suspension after 15 years is not possible for ‘special gravity’ crimes, but provides no explicit minimum served time).”

So - murder gets you about 15 - 23 years in Germany. Not terrible, but for the worst folks, I much prefer the death penalty.

As well, murderers kill in prison, and sometimes escape from prison. Ted Bundy killed about 50 folks, got caught, escaped, killed three more folks.

Since his execution, he hasn’t killed even a single person.

sitetest