Posted on 11/21/2012 2:34:48 PM PST by Lera
Not a word was heard from the Vatican all the years Sderot babies were in mortal danger. They began noticing the violence last week.
Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, President of the Vatican Council for Culture, commenting on the war between Israel and Hamas, delivered a severe attack on the Jewish people: “I think of the ‘massacre of the innocents’. Children are dying in Gaza, their mothers’ shouts is a perennial cry, a universal cry”.
The Catholic Church high official equated Israel’s operation in Gaza against terror groups with the New Testament story of Herod’s slaughter of Jewish babies in his effort to kill Jesus.
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
The only problem is that this never happened! Cardinal Ravisi never said it.quote a militantly anti-Catholic article misquoting the Cardinal's introduction to Pope Benedict's third volume on Jesus of Nazareth. In his remarks the Cardinal mentioned a cycle of violence in the middle east dating back thousands of years and cited Herrod's killing of the innocent among several examples.
This was kind of funny, when I pointed out that
What rot are you talking about? Josef Stalin was born in Georgia, at sixteen, he received a scholarship to a Georgian Orthodox seminary, where he rebelled against the imperialist and religious orderand the response was "He attended Theological Seminary of Tiflis, Georgia"
You do know that's Georgia the ex-Soviet state, not the state where Atlanta is in, right?
to which I had to reply he was Georgian Orthodox, this was a Georgian Orthodox seminary -- Jesuits generally don't set up Orthodox seminaries..
you can see the same mistakes in all of Lera's posts
What 'splaining has he got to do about this?? The MSM twists a Christians words and actually puts word into his mouth....
The Pontifical Council for Culture will have an official English translation available in a few days and I'll make a point of posting it.
Oh......and you will be pinged to it.
Those who post and defend garbage like this, will be held accountable.
What 'splaining has he got to do about this?? The MSM twists a Christians words and actually puts word into his mouth....
There are many very confused and deceived individuals who post and post to anti-Catholic topics on these threads. These anti-Catholics self identify by their selective participation and always critical commentary. This thread is a perfect example.
Where there is a complete and likely willful ignorance of any of the positive contributions to peace in the middle east made by the Church and Catholics, there is an eagerness to believe the worst, assume the worst and recite the worst based upon nothing more that a desire to harm the Church. Compounding this is the denial that this behavior is in anyway judgmental or anti-Catholic. These people are not evil, but their actions are. Although we are warned by moderators about assigning motive we can certainly question them and come to the obvious conclusions.
The question is what can or should we do about it? We already know.
"Who is going to harm you if you are eager to do good? But even if you should suffer for what is right, you are blessed. “Do not fear their threats; do not be frightened.” But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. For it is better, if it is God’s will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil." - 1 Peter 3:13-17
Peace be with you.
Really, bb did that. So, bb, are you a good Protestant?
don’t believe the lies posted by the anti-Christian media. As you see above, they have distorted what the CArdinal said and where he said it.
And note what Natural law said in post 35 The only problem is that this never happened! Cardinal Ravisi never said it.... {this} quote a militantly anti-Catholic article misquoting the Cardinal's introduction to Pope Benedict's third volume on Jesus of Nazareth. In his remarks the Cardinal mentioned a cycle of violence in the middle east dating back thousands of years and cited Herrod's killing of the innocent among several examples.
i'm suggest reading the facts before believing articles from the MSM which is notoriously anti-Christian
And note what Natural law said in post 35 The only problem is that this never happened! Cardinal Ravisi never said it.... {this} quote a militantly anti-Catholic article misquoting the Cardinal's introduction to Pope Benedict's third volume on Jesus of Nazareth. In his remarks the Cardinal mentioned a cycle of violence in the middle east dating back thousands of years and cited Herrod's killing of the innocent among several examples.
i'm suggest reading the facts before believing articles from the MSM which is notoriously anti-Christian
Did you read the article? The “baby killer” was not stated in the article as a quote - it was, indeed headline hyperbole - and is a fair complaint on it’s face
BUT
The point in the article made was this quote: “I think of the ‘massacre of the innocents’. Children are dying in Gaza, their mothers’ shouts is a perennial cry, a universal cry”
This a fair complaint as well. It is not a far extrapolation (in the historical context) to get to the headline, but it is an extrapolation.
Are you stating that the quote listed in the article attributed to the Cardinal is manufactured?
If not, saying “It never happened” is not an entirely fair or honest point, and is a denial of Clintonian proportions. You are saying “the literal headline isn’t true, so nothing in the article is true”
exactly, peevedpatriot has pointed out in reply to bb's I'm not an anti-Catholic with the post I'm reminded of an article you recommended to me on another thread. I still remember the first line: "In order to be a good Protestant, you must be a good anti-Catholic." - that's what you call hoisted by your own petard, eh?
you can ping Lera to it.
I can bet that you'll get no response
As Natural law pointed out The only problem is that this never happened! Cardinal Ravisi never said it.
quote a militantly anti-Catholic article misquoting the Cardinal's introduction to Pope Benedict's third volume on Jesus of Nazareth.
In his remarks the Cardinal mentioned a cycle of violence in the middle east dating back thousands of years and cited Herrod's killing of the innocent among several examples. and no response from Lera
What is incredible is the number of people who have jumped on it an ignored the statments like
“The recent barrage of rocket attacks from Gaza into Southern Israel represents a continuing pattern of morally unjustifiable uses of indiscriminate force against civilians,” - Bishop Richard Pates, Chairman of the USCCB Justice-and-Peace Committee
yes, the rest of the article is just like the title. If they can distort things so wildly, what more can you believe? It's just like the New York Times on Obama
remember the next time you read an anti-Catholic article posted like this, it's just the pro-Obama prss hitting Christianity
So the Cardinal didn’t say it at all, or that it is quoted in what someone calls “militantly anti-Catholic article” is the problem?
Did the Cardinal say “I think of the ‘massacre of the innocents’. Children are dying in Gaza, their mothers’ shouts is a perennial cry, a universal cry”.
Or is that quote manufactured by anti-Catholics?
Hey, cronos, calm down.
The article is here.
http://www.remnantofgod.org/JohnPaul2cyn.htm
If you want to dispute the points of the article, dispute them with the author. But do let us know how you make out.
Did the Cardinal say “I think of the ‘massacre of the innocents’. Children are dying in Gaza, their mothers’ shouts is a perennial cry, a universal cry”, or did he not say that?
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