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To: Natural Law

what about this source?

http://www.asca.it/news-Papa__card_Ravasi__grido__strage_innocenti__risuona_in_vittime_Gaza-1220501-POL.html

Is this a complete fabrication too?

“Please distance yourself from that.”

I’m trying to figure out who to believe on this thread.

It shouldn’t be so hard.


162 posted on 11/22/2012 1:12:23 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

The article was a hit piece. Don't believe it. Distortions for the most part (when not outright fabrication from the thinnest of element) carefully blended to inflict maximum damage on everyone except Hamas, for it sold the idea that the pali's are the new Jesus (nothing further from the truth in that alone, eh?) and that Christian are accusing Jews of killing this "new" baby Jesus.

As far as sick and twisted memes go, that one is real doozy...

163 posted on 11/22/2012 1:29:51 PM PST by BlueDragon (confucious say: sad man find many coin lost on ground)
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To: RFEngineer
"what about this source?"

Assuming you are literate in Italian, point out where in that link the Vatican or the Cardinal called Israel "Baby-Killers".

"I’m trying to figure out who to believe on this thread."

Seek and believe the truth. Protestantism leads some to imprint everything they read, news or Scripture, with what they want it to mean. Try reading what was actually said in the context it was said and what has actually been done.

Peace be with you.

165 posted on 11/22/2012 1:56:48 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: RFEngineer
I did a Google search on the sentence and found this as well http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://it.notizie.yahoo.com/papa-card-ravasi-grido-strage-innocenti-risuona-vittime-150800913.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dgrido__strage_innocenti__risuona_in_vittime_Gaza%26hl%3Den%26tbo%3Dd%26biw%3D1107%26bih%3D490&sa=X&ei=G-iuUJaZN4369gSXjoGwAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQ7gEwAA

It states:

    ASCA) - Citta 'del Vaticano, 20 Nov - The deaths of children in Gaza during the conflict between Israel and Hamas in recent days dramatically reproduce the topicality' of the biblical episode of the massacre of the innocents. Lo ha detto il card. He said the card. Gianfranco Ravasi, presidente del Pontificio Consiglio per la cultura, durante la presentazione oggi in Vaticano del terzo volume del libro di papa Benedetto XVI su Gesu' di Nazareth, dedicato all'infanzia di Gesu'. Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture, now in the Vatican during the presentation of the third volume of the book by Pope Benedict XVI on Jesus 'of Nazareth, dedicated to the childhood of Jesus'. ''Io penso - ha detto il porporato - al grido delle madri nella strage degli innocenti, che e' un grido perenne, perpetuo E' un grido universale, che risuona ancora ai nostri giorni. '' I think - said the cardinal - the cry of the mothers in the massacre of the innocents, and that 'a cry perennial, perpetual and' a universal cry that still resonates today. Muoiono i bambini a Gaza e il grido delle madri e' il continuo grido... Children die in Gaza and the cries of the mothers' continual cry ... Vedete, il racconto non e' finito la', in quel contesto storico''. You see, the story is not 'finished', in that historical context.'' Secondo il card.

Apparently, there was more to the Cardinal's interview than what was formally posted in his speech for the Pope's new book.

192 posted on 11/22/2012 7:21:11 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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