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To: marshmallow
Ravasi's entire discourse will be posted in this forum in due course. We'll go through it sentence by sentence. You can point out to us the exact words which justify the headline "The Vatican on Gaza: Israel is a baby-killer". I look forward to it.

I'll keep posting every other godless thing I can find that he has said to the media . No doubt you will keep making excuses for him.
Things edited and translated by the Vatican to cover for him don't count much


235 posted on 11/23/2012 10:20:27 AM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Lera; marshmallow

“I’ll keep posting every other godless thing I can find that he has said to the media”.

This seems to me to be very akin to the “target and demonize” ROE of the political left.

There is not one of us who can deny that, in our personal life, we have said something either incorrect, imprudent, or which can be misinterpreted, which had consequences and for which we are sorry.

Politicians do this, as the last election cycle has shown.

And people who are representatives of churches can also fall prey to this misfortune of words that can, whether justly or unjustly, be held against them.

That is why, in all such situations, the spiritual virtue of prudence has practical value, and which is much needed here on this unfortunate thread.

I can see only one beneficiary here: Old Screwtape, he who sows discord and division among the believers.
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“The wise of heart is called a man of discernment, and pleasant speech increases persuasiveness.” Proverbs: 16:21

“The mind of the wise makes his speech judicious and adds persuasiveness to his lips.” Proverbs 16:23

“He who restrains his words has knowledge, and he who has a cool spirit is a man of understanding” Proverbs 17:27


249 posted on 11/23/2012 12:23:33 PM PST by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Lera
I'll keep posting every other godless thing I can find that he has said to the media . No doubt you will keep making excuses for him.

IOW, you'll attempt to change the subject.

It's really simple. I'm going to post Ravasi's actual words. The discourse on which your article is based. I'm inviting you to compare Meiotti's words with Ravasi's actual words.

Is there a problem with that?

Things edited and translated by the Vatican to cover for him don't count much.

Ah, I see. You won't discuss the transcript because the Vatican doctored it. Have I got that right?

Figures.

BTW, since you're so concerned about integrity in publishing, you might like to consider this little tidbit. The author of this piece, Giulio Meiotti, is apparently a serial plagiarist. How 'bout that then!

Did you know that? You're happy to quote him as a journalist of record?

258 posted on 11/23/2012 3:50:29 PM PST by marshmallow (.)
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