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To: Just mythoughts; pastorbillrandles
Did Able die?

All of them, as a people.

See? You have no idea what I'm talking about. Yet the bulk of usages with regard to Abel are PLURAL, as I had said above and as you chose to ignore. If your Strong's didn't tell you that then the Concordant Literal Interlinear will, as will any reasonable introductory text on Hebrew grammar. So, go lay out all those plurals and tell me why they are there. Then tell me why it shifts to a mix of singular and plural in v8-9.

If you think that in two years I haven't done as much as to look at a concordance... dear G_d, give me patience. Accordingly, all I can say now is that your citations are unimpressive to me. I posted in the first place because the good pastor had put in some considerable effort and I was willing to share with him a draft, on condition of a signed non-disclosure of course. You didn't. He at least had the decency to ask a question first before citing the same kind information on the standard interpretation I read all my years of study prior to the finds that led to Shemitta. Not you. Accordingly, I don't have time for your level of depth; you'll just have to wait until I publish it.

17 posted on 11/27/2012 1:40:39 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Interesting theory, and one I won't dismiss out of hand given that Esau is also mentioned as a people. It also explains how the sons of Adam could procreate without any daughters being mentioned in the Scripture.

I'll have to think about it some more.

18 posted on 11/27/2012 1:53:31 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Carry_Okie
All of them, as a people. See? You have no idea what I'm talking about. Yet the bulk of usages with regard to Abel are PLURAL, as I had said above and as you chose to ignore. If your Strong's didn't tell you that then the Concordant Literal Interlinear will, as will any reasonable introductory text on Hebrew grammar. So, go lay out all those plurals and tell me why they are there. Then tell me why it shifts to a mix of singular and plural in v8-9.

Genesis 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: "For God," said she, "hath appointed me another *seed* instead of Abel, whom Cain slew."

There is your plural the 'seed' of Able which Cain prevented ever having the opportunity of being born of woman.

I did not spend 20 minutes typing allllllllllllllll the places 'slew' and varying words translated from that prime word that were used in the Hebrew to impress you. The point and purpose was to get the prime root meaning of that word 'slew'. Given what God had Moses to pen, this is God speaking to any who take the time to investigate. Cain with premeditation murdered his twin Able. It was predestined that thorough this blood line would come Christ our Saviour. Does not change what took place or matter for any and all who reject Christ. What God set in motion happened in spite of all those whose purpose was to derail His plan.

The point/purpose is to learn what the Creator of all souls/spirits, has to say, NOT what mortals pick over, emphasis, and conclude the words mean. The Heavenly Father made clear through Moses His perfect opinion of Cain.

Cain committed a premeditated jealous rage murder. However, the later 'death' sentence required of premeditated murder had not yet been commanded. But Cain was cursed, he could no longer grow his food, he needed somebody else to grow his wheat!

20 posted on 11/27/2012 3:07:49 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Carry_Okie

Not saying I believe or disbelieve what you are saying, just that I agree with you that most of the time we read things primarily in the limitations of English, ignorant of the fact that the other languages may have other meanings.


23 posted on 11/28/2012 3:54:15 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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