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To: Carry_Okie

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom you slew between the temple and the altar.(Matthew 23)

Jesus thought it was Righteous blood shed in guilt, is that not murder?


7 posted on 11/26/2012 7:28:28 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles
Are you saying Cain didn’t murder Abel?

It's rather obvious from what I wrote.

Please elaborate,

It's seventy pages of elaboration, that will be an attachment to an existing book on the Sabbath year. I'm working on a 10pp summary now to fit within the regular text. I'm really not sure how much I should divulge as it is not yet published. But I will touch upon the more obvious features of the story.

If you look at most of the grammatical constructions for Abel in the Hebrew, they are PLURAL. Yes, I know there are explanations for this, but they make no sense compared to the awesome and very deep story that is actually there. Further, there are important distinctions between the Septuagint and the Masoretic text that render violence unlikely.

I don't know if you've done it but decoding the names in Cain's line maps onto the entire story from Gen. 2-4, possibly as a mnemonic device. That Abel is replaced by Seth is particularly telling, as it sets the compilation of the story into the Torah exactly during the time of the Exodus. IOW, I believe the story is true, but not the way it is currently interpreted.

Jesus thought it was Righteous blood shed in guilt, is that not murder?

Well, if you look at the story, "blood" is "damim," a plural construction for "bloods." Nor is that construction reserved exclusively to people as is commonly thought. So, in my opinion, Yeshua was teaching from a metaphor he knew the people would grasp based upon what He knew of the common understanding. In fact, this interpretation sheds some considerable light on several of His teachings, particularly in the Sermon on the Mount.

As this work is not yet published, I can't go into great detail publicly without a non-disclosure agreement. All I can say is that no one who has read it has disagreed with the thesis, including an Israeli linguist.

8 posted on 11/26/2012 9:39:04 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
I'll spare you looking up the other NT references:

Hebrews 11:4
By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Yes, they reflect the usual interpretation.
10 posted on 11/26/2012 10:06:12 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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