Posted on 11/30/2012 3:00:48 PM PST by NYer
Did Pope mention that there were no wise men, either? The wise men showed up at Jesus’ home (not a manger) when Jesus was a child (not a baby), about 2 years old. Their trip following the star from Point A to Point B would’ve taken about two years.
This study argues (IMO quite persuasively) that the whole sequence of events began at Tabernacles, which would make December 25, 5 BC, a plausible date for the Nativity.
Oh, and BTW, Zechariah was not High Priest. We have the list of High Priests from that time, and his name isn't on it.
Per what religion? Either Christ died for my sins or he didn't - and, since I repented of my sins and accepted Him as my Savior, either I am saved or He and Scripture cannot be believed. I have faith that He has opened His arms and God's promise from the Old Covenant, about the New Covenant are also lies:
From Jeremiah 31
31 The days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to[d] them,[e] declares the Lord.
33 This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, Know the Lord, because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.
I realize it specifies Israel, but we are told in the New Testament that all fall under the cleansing shedding of Jesus' Blood.
I was under the impression that the Romans collected taxes anytime.
Has it been established that there was a temple flock year round? The established practice in that area was to move the flocks from pasture to pasture in nomadic fashion. Given that there were buyers and sellers (according to one of my theology professors in the gallery of the gentiles) it appears that the animals used for sacrifices weren’t kept by the temple but were brought there by merchants who sold them to individuals following the law.
It was a census, not a normal tax.
the shepherds were part of the lowest memebers of society. the merchants were somewhat higher. It would make sense that the merchants hired them to tend those same flocks.
Traditionally flocks were owned by a family and the job of shepherd was given to a family member but what you say is possible. However, it doesn’t follow that the flocks were there year round in an area doesn’t support year round grazing.
Oh, and BTW, Zechariah was not High Priest. We have the list of High Priests from that time, and his name isn't on it.
Zacharias served as a high priest [fn](1:14) Or, tabernacled; i.e. lived temporarily The verse also provides illumination as to Shekhinah means the dwelling or settling, and denotes the dwelling And now to your offered citation. The first word of the article raises red flags "John Chrysostom" John Chrysostom was a rabid anti-semite and thus someone The rest of the article is a masterful display of Eisegesis Here is a very visual source: Just based on scripture. Again the first clue to the birth of Yah'shua is John 1:14 as cited above. OBTW Important events in the life of Yah'shua occurred Conceived as the light entering the temple (John 10:22 / John 8:12) Who knows if the final trump will occur on the Feast of Trumpets Seek YHvH in His WORD. Zacharias was not THE HIGH PRIEST, but
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Luke 1:9 according to the custom of the priestly office,
I start by reading John 1:14 under the illumination of the Ru'ach HaKodesh.
he was chosen by lot to enter the temple of the Lord and burn incense. John 1:14 And the WORD became flesh,
The word for Tabernacle, mishkan, is a derivative of the
and [fn]dwelt among us,
and we saw His glory,
glory as of the only begotten from the Father,
full of grace and truth. σκηνόω Strong's G4637 - skēnoō
1) to fix one's tabernacle,
have one's tabernacle,
abide (or live) in a tabernacle (or tent),
tabernacle
2) to dwell
same root and is used in the sense of dwelling-place in the Bible
Yah'shua being the Shekhinah glory.
or settling of the divine presence of God, especially in the Temple in Jerusalem.
Excerpt from: Kenneth F. Doig, New Testament Chronology,
who would have hated Yah'shua the JEWISH MESSIAH
and coming King on the throne of David in Jerusalem.
ju-jitsu from many extra-scriptural sources.
Jesus' date of birth
on YHvH commanded Feast days as metaphors of the feast.
Born on the Feast of Tabernacles.(John 1:14)
Circumcised on the Feast of Simchat Torah ( Joy of the WORD)
Bread and wine of the Pesach.
Death as the Lamb of G-d on Hag Matzoh.
Rising on the Feast of First Fruits.
Sending the Ru'ach HaKodesh on the Feast of Shavuot(Pentecost).
Hope you had a peaceful Shabbat
Perhaps you're confusing a combination of things. While Jesus walked the earth, we were still under the Old Covenant. Just crying out to the Lord is not the same as repenting of your sins and accepting Jesus as your Savior. Jesus was the only Man to walk the Earth that could "do God's will as far as conforming to the Commandments, else (once again) there was no reason for Him to die for our sins.
Then how is it that some were told by Jesus that they were saved, even before He died for their sins and they had the chance of accepting Him as their Savior?
Then how is it that some were told by Jesus that they were saved, even before He died for their sins and they had the chance of accepting Him as their Savior?
In the hebrew scriptures YHvH exists Yah'shua (Jesus) NAME in Hebrew See: 1 Ki. 18:24; 2 Ki. 5:11; Isa. 12:4; 44:5; 48:2; Zeph. 3:9; Zech. 13:9; Rom. 10:13; 1 Co. 1:2 Also see: Joel 2:32 & Acts 2:21 specifically. Call on the NAME of YHvH for salvation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
where the word LORD is used in translation.
means "YHvH is/be my salvation".
Jesus was probably born in the summer. >>
that would hurt the retail industry. Jesus was born during the census, whenever that was.
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