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What Is the Difference Between Islam and Islamism? ?
George Mason University's History News Network ^ | September 8, 2003 | Melvin E. Matthews, Jr

Posted on 11/30/2012 4:00:03 PM PST by teflon9

The term Islamism was coined to differentiate Islam as modern ideology from Islam as a faith. It became necessary to make this distinction after the Iranian revolution of 1979, which gave rise to the popular use of the term: "Islamic fundamentalism." The use of fundamentalism to describe Islam spread so fast that by 1990, the Concise Oxford English Dictionary defined fundamentalism as "the strict maintenance of traditional Protestant beliefs" and "the strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion, especially Islam."

Ironically the more the media embraced Islamic fundamentalism as a term, the more scholars of Islam looked askance at it. Some felt that fundamentalism didn't capture the methodology and style of Iran's revolution and similar Muslim movements. Others, especially those sympathetic to the new Muslin movements, felt the term fundamentalist was unfair to progressive Muslims. Still, there were those academics who defended the use of the term fundamentalism.

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Islam; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: euphemisms; islam; politicalcorrectness; synonyms
Point of this article, at least after some serious reading-between-the-lines is that terms like "islamist" and "islamism" are mere euphemisms of the politically correct variety, and that if we want to discuss Islamic fundamentalism, then that is what we should call it, not "islamism". Call a spade a spade, and so on.
1 posted on 11/30/2012 4:00:11 PM PST by teflon9
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To: teflon9

Probably the same difference between socialism and communism. No difference, except the speed that each works at.


2 posted on 11/30/2012 4:02:38 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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3 posted on 11/30/2012 4:04:06 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: teflon9

None. Islam is an abomination worthy only of extinction.


4 posted on 11/30/2012 4:07:50 PM PST by Noumenon (As long as you have a rifle, you STILL have a vote.)
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To: teflon9

If you say “Islamism”, then you can pretend that “Islam” is something different and cool. The fact is some people are better practioners of their faith than others.


5 posted on 11/30/2012 4:09:22 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: teflon9

Anything related to this sect should revert back to what our Founding Fathers and Winston Churchill knew it as, mohammedanism, with a little “m”! They knew it was dangerous and a false religion!


6 posted on 11/30/2012 4:09:28 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: teflon9

It’s analagous to murderous cult versus those who are under the spell of the murderous cult, i.e., cult versus cultism.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 4:11:03 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: teflon9

I prefer Islamunism as the correct term for the patriarchal-oligarchy that Islam craves.


8 posted on 11/30/2012 4:12:19 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: teflon9

People use the term Islamist instead of Muslim, although both are essentially the same thing.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 4:22:47 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: teflon9

Islam is the cult, and Islamism simply describes the attempt to spread it or impose it, primarily by force.


10 posted on 11/30/2012 4:25:48 PM PST by livius
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To: teflon9
the spelling... nothing more
11 posted on 11/30/2012 4:28:58 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: teflon9

Nothing...


12 posted on 11/30/2012 4:37:13 PM PST by babygene
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To: teflon9

I have traveled all over the world and I have actually read the Quran (along with the Bible and a lot of other texts) and I can honestly tell you that to the Muslim mind, there is not one bit of difference. Islam, Islamist, Islamism are all the root thought and concept. It is only the west that tries to separate the terms.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 4:37:30 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: teflon9

14 posted on 11/30/2012 4:38:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Hey Travis...who is Randall Wallace?

I like the poster but I think it should be William Wallace.

15 posted on 11/30/2012 4:43:51 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: Travis McGee

Interesting however that you mention Randall Wallace...he was the screenwriter for “Braveheart” and for “We Were Soldiers.”


16 posted on 11/30/2012 4:48:43 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: Travis McGee

Oops!;-)


17 posted on 11/30/2012 4:50:25 PM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: teflon9
[S]ome Muslims embraced a radical ideology known as Islamism.

The article speaks of Islamism as political Islam that can be working to overthrow countries through politics and there are also the extremist Islamists who use terror.

The article did not mention secular Muslims. Though Turkey is being changed since I lived in Ankara for a few months there are tens of millions of secularists who do not want Islamism and sharia law. This English language article from Turkey (below) uses the terms as described in the posted article; but also acknowledges the tens of millions secularists.. many if not most I believe are Kemalists (after the founder of modern Turkey Mustafa Kemal Atatürk the first President of Turkey. He is credited with being the founder of the Republic of Turkey).

Tens of millions of Muslims in Turkey do not want Islamism and sharia law

Here is the English language column from an Ankara newspaper (2010). Turkey is 99.9 percent Muslim. There is a "dangerous polarization between two broad political camps congregated around Islamists and secularists . . . Turkey, run by secular parties between 1946 and 2002 and by the AKP, a party with roots in political Islam, since 2002, is now severely split between secularists and Islamists."

18 posted on 11/30/2012 4:51:34 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: teflon9
Islamism is Islam. There is no difference. It's in the Book, their book. There is no such thing as a Moslem extremist. A Moslem believes that it is incumbent on him as a Moslem to propagate the faith by any means possible and to kill or enslave those who will not be converted until all remaining living humans are Moslem. There are, again, no Moslem (or Islamic) extremists. The degree that one is less than fanatic about imposing the Islamic Allahtopia on ALL mankind is the degree that one is not Moslem. Anyone who claims differently is either Moslem and performing honorable Takkyia or one has not read the Koran or Haditha and doesn't believe hey could actually say that.
19 posted on 11/30/2012 5:25:25 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: teflon9

Three letters?


20 posted on 11/30/2012 5:48:47 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: teflon9

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.” - Manuel II Paleologos, Emperor of Byzantium.

Islam was and is about world conquest, nothing less. The world will be a better place the day the last person that thinks Mohammed was a prophet lies in pieces on the ground among the cratered ruins where Mecca once stood.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 6:20:06 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: teflon9

“What Is the Difference Between Islam and Islamism? ?”

“ism”.

Other than that, they are the same thing.


22 posted on 11/30/2012 6:23:35 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: RoosterRedux

I love the historical coincidence of Randall Wallace writing about William Wallace.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 7:44:40 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: teflon9

Who cares?

Bacon RULES (so many uses, so little time)

TT


24 posted on 11/30/2012 7:47:23 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: Travis McGee

Me too...now that I am aware of it.;-)


25 posted on 12/01/2012 4:04:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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