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To: Salvation
I didn’t take it as against other Christians.....just a statement of fact. It is a question for Catholics not for other believers.

I didn't say it was "against" anyone in particular, just that it calls those who do not believe like Roman Catholics are "misguided" and "mistaken" which is not a statement of fact but an opinion. The Greek Orthodox do not accept the Immaculate Conception of Mary and they contend that such a dogma does NOT have Apostolic or Biblical precedent. By saying it is a question for Catholics only totally dismisses the Catholic insistence that no one can be saved outside of her. The doctrine was made "official" and therefore mandatory for all Christians before Vatican II came out and changed that saying others CAN be saved without being Roman Catholics.

I know today was a holy day of obligation for the Feast of the Immaculate Conception because I took my Mom to Mass tonight. And, frankly, you guys can believe whatever floats your boat. Where I object is telling people they are wrong if they don't believe it. Had the article stuck to just explaining the reasons why Roman Catholics believe in Mary's sinlessness and not mentioned those who don't, it probably could have stayed as a caucus thread. But you, I KNOW, know the rules. Did you not read it before you posted it?

15 posted on 12/07/2012 10:41:01 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Since the thread is open, I’ll post this link to a discussion on what the Greek text means:

“In our case all it would mean is that Mary had received favor from God in the past and was still in His good-graces. In short, this is just a verb form, not a miracle or the representation of one.”

http://ichthys.com/mail-Mary-full-of-grace.htm


16 posted on 12/07/2012 10:49:05 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: boatbums

I did not interpret it as telling people they were wrong. To me, it expressed the opinion of Catholics.

Yes, I read the article. Some of it even got snipped.


19 posted on 12/07/2012 11:00:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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