So as not to waste the valuable time of others, please learn the meaning of terms before attempting to join the conversation.
You talk abou tthis NONSENSE as if it had real meaning and mattered.
What matters is living your life in a manner taught by God and Christ, not arguing amonsts ourselves over whether mom was doing it with Joseph.
It is something that can never and will never be known- so why discuss it? Are you goign to convince anyone that the way YOU believe is so much better than the way THEY believe?