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THE BIG QUESTION:

So how could a Christian faith so unified with other denominations all across the country vote so consistently to outlaw its own historical and religious values?

1 posted on 12/09/2012 5:08:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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So how could a Christian faith so unified with other denominations all across the country vote so consistently to outlaw its own historical and religious values?

I guess you'd have to ask the Catholic Church.

2 posted on 12/09/2012 5:14:18 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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Am I my brother’s keeper? Most of those who call themselves Christians or Jews or Moslems answer: Yes, we are our brothers’ keeper. That is the heresy.

Am I my brother’s keeper was asked by Cain, the first murderer in an attempt to distract God from his question.

I am not my brother’s keeper. I am my brother’s brother. There is a big difference.

Joshua said it best in reference to government:
Choose you this day whom you will serve. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

The essence of our society is that choosing Judaism, or Christianity, or any religion/value system is a free choice. We Judeo Christians are to set an example and spread the good news. But we are not to impose our Christian values on others and force them to practice the golden-rule or any other Christian teaching.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 5:18:34 PM PST by spintreebob
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6 posted on 12/09/2012 5:19:18 PM PST by narses
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7 posted on 12/09/2012 5:19:51 PM PST by narses
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8 posted on 12/09/2012 5:20:46 PM PST by narses
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Just because someone professes to be Christian doesn’t mean God is pleased with them. Just consider the Seven Churches of Asia described in the book of Revelation. God was/is only pleased with one.


9 posted on 12/09/2012 5:20:58 PM PST by fso301
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Galatians 3:1-10 teaches a strong law free gospel - You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain— if indeed it was in vain? Does He then, who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations shall be blessed in you.” 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer. For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.”


13 posted on 12/09/2012 5:40:06 PM PST by Olympiad Fisherman
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A: Many who consider themselves “Christians” are not at all.


14 posted on 12/09/2012 5:43:59 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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Don't think we've used ANTINOMIANISM since the 1996 election. Big discussions on it then ~ but FR wasn't exactly the FR we know today ~ actually the internet wasn't the same as it is now.

One of the corollaries of antinomianism is the view expressed by so many Catholic politicians that they are personally opposed to killing babies, but if that's your bag go to it.

Another common antinomianistic Catholic corollary is that they don't want to push Catholic morals and dogma in Protestant faces ~ BTW, they do that without even knowing any Protestants so how do they know what Protestants really believe anyway. That's possibly the most extreme form of antinomianism ~ to escape your own core beliefs by blaming it on the scornful glance of others.

It's my observation that many people ~ whether Catholic, Jewish or Protestant, or Buddhist or Hindu or Moslem IN THE USA seek to avoid conflict with friends and family by avoiding discussion of basic moral precepts ~ even those common to almost every civilized community on the planet!

Overseas the Moslems are willing to speak up and kill each other over these issues ~ many of them sexual or pork flavored in nature to be sure, but that's overseas ~ not here.

We have a country with people in it from every land, who believe every religion, and hold every political belief. The way we have been meeting our obligation to our posterity to pass on to them a moral code or set of standards that are both workable and useful is to pass the buck ~ which is the very essence of antinomianism.

In the long run that won't work. China with its 300 million body of Christians might figure it out ~ but so too might the Russian Orthodox church.

Frankly when I compare Nancy Pelosi to Putin I prefer Putin ~ and it's all over this issue of antinomianism. Pelosi's people are abominable ~ no value, no interest in values, they worship money and the basest sort of murders. The Russians, even after 70 years of Communist clap trap and BS, still feel guilty about it ~

17 posted on 12/09/2012 6:12:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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Simple. Study the Emergent church/Progressive ideology. The purpose driven/mystical movements and all of their many off springs.

Look at a Mega church and try not to see evil and idolatry.

The church has been infiltrated as well, and people who don’t know any better are full of teachings from enemies of God.

Look at the “Urban” movement out of Willow Creek, the Urban Bible- the voter fraud of of city Baptist and AME churches- and Zondervan publishing.


18 posted on 12/09/2012 6:13:16 PM PST by Truth2012
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Good article. Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 12/09/2012 6:19:34 PM PST by ReformationFan
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In the Religion forum, on a thread titled Antinomianism: The Soft Heresy (How could Christians vote to outlaw their own religious values?), SeekAndFind wrote:
THE BIG QUESTION:
So how could a Christian faith so unified with other denominations all across the country vote so consistently to outlaw its own historical and religious values?

The answer is quite simple....The political opposition with all of its venues available decided not to make it an issue

Why we lost...http://www.theusmat.com/


20 posted on 12/09/2012 6:23:11 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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I am tired of people misunderstanding "Antinomianism."

It has been well said, that if you are not accused of being antinomian, then you are not preaching the Gospel.

We are free in Christ period but the question is, is what we do contingent on what we believe or the other way around?

I would be the first one to say that voting for Obama means you are not a Christian; but is that really true?

My feelings of revulsion and contempt for Obama are as strong as anybody on Free Republic, and I am not kidding.

But in truth and reality, you are free in Christ and what you do is between you and God. The blood of Christ does not leave you because you do something evil or do something boneheaded as voting for Obama. The blood of Christ is far more powerful than that. My tagline says it best.

24 posted on 12/10/2012 3:33:02 AM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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