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"When Bad Things Happen to Good People"
The libs threw God out of the school and wouldn’t “buzz” him back in.
I hate to say it, but when my atheist brother brings up arguments using examples like this, it’s very difficult to counter with just a “in God we trust.” Thanks for the article.
I never find it necessary to blame God for the evil that men do. Where is God? He is always right there offering comfort and peace.
revelation 3:20
That would be the same “God” that supposedly made the lunitic and then set him apon those children?
Mental illness indeed.
I believe that every one of those children murdered today are in heaven.
One has to wonder though... had they been protected from this tragedy, how many of them would have come to a saving relationship with Jesus once they passed out of their age of innocence?
When we allow our educators to shun and reject God from our schools, what would we expect to happen as a result?
The atheists will surely look at this and say “see? where is your God in situations such as these?” To which I would respond “I don’t know... but maybe if God were allowed in school, they would still be alive.”
I would also have this observation to make...
As a result of God allowing this to happen, how many parents will finally wake up and remove their children from a public school system which indoctrinates our children in the ways of the world and teaches them to hate God?
I wonder how many lives these children’s death will actually save in the long run?
I wonder how many people will curse God in response to this, and how many people will turn to Him?
The greatest suffering this earth will see is still yet to come. Do you want to be around for it?
Jesus has a great escape plan.
I’m not Christian, Jew, or atheist. I have no “home”, but I seek answers just like most people. Just the other night a friend and I were discussing the existence of God and the presence of evil and great suffering. In doing so, I remembered that Dennis Prager has often talked on this subject and found this “hour” from his program from 2007. Prager mentions Job just like the author here. Thank you, Salvation, for posting this. I don’t know what else to say. Words are so feeble at times like this.
Prager God , Evil and suffering 1 of 4 Apologetics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2__CP7edm9s
Prager : God , Evil & Suffering 2 of 4 Apologetics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3YDgnDrGjU
Prager : God , Evil & Suffering 3 of 4 Apologetics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB8pF3Od0jU
Prager : God , Evil & Suffering 4 of 4 Apologetics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOyXilktg7w
I always thought that God is interested in what is in our hearts, not the details of our deaths or our longevity, God knew those children, he knew the shooter, he knows the parents, and brothers and sisters, and aunts, and best friends of the kids, he knows us on this thread, it is all part of the human experience.
If my child dies of cancer, it doesn’t bother God, he welcomes her home, but he is interested in how she dealt with it, how I dealt with it, how the doctors, the nurses, the guy that made her wig, the guy in the bar that I spilled my guts to, all of us individual humans dealt with it, and with all of the rest of life and their losses and wins, or whether they should even use words like “losses and wins” when talking about life.
This earthly period is when God lets us, nature, rattlesnakes and hurricanes, and car accidents and earthly existence carry on, as he pays attention to what is in our hearts as things happen, and influence us, and how life shapes us.
I have never understood these questions about ‘where is God’, ‘why am I dying’, ‘why is my child dying of bone cancer’, ‘why did God let this steering column go through my chest’, or ‘God blessed me with winning the 20 million dollar lottery’, ‘Oh, looky, God let that rock fall just seconds before I walked over there’, I just don’t think that he gets involved in such things to a degree that we need to incorporate it into our thinking, start miracle score keeping, and miracle talking. I think the things that God finds important, are different (naturally) than many of the things that we find important.
We all suffer, but without suffering, we may as well be rocks carved with prayerful hands.
How many times have we heard the cliche, “God let my wife and child die, I don’t believe in him anymore”, what the heck is that about? The wife, the child, you, all have your own individual relationship with God, and it is the afterlife that is all important.
This is a tragedy to we humans (God already has the children, they and he are doing just fine), but it isn’t God’s doing, or lack of doing.
I wished that I knew more about theology, because I think that this is Christianity 101 and I don’t understand how the media, or the left, and even many Christians think that God created a rock garden of worshipful Christian sculptures who never become rough and ugly, and who don’t live on our own domain, or in our own existence.
Sadly, we are not only are dealing with human flesh and blood, but also we are in the midst of a spiritual warfare situation here, BIGTIME.
As a CT FRper, and living 40 minutes away from this horrible shooting incident, prayers for the repose of the souls of those who died and for confort and support to those who are left behind.
Thank you for this post Salvation. Yes, God is a mystery. Good and evil are a part of our struggle.
May God Bless the parents of those children. Somehow...
Prayers up.
Where is God in a time like this?
At the same place where He was when his Only-Begotten Son was nailed to a cross on a hill outside of Jerusalem.
for later
Godforsaken: Bad Things Happen. Is there a God who cares? Yes. Heres proof. - Dinesh D'Souza
Making Sense Out of Suffering - Peter Kreeft
The Problem of Pain - C. S. Lewis
Romans 14:11-12
Holy Innocents, you died before you were old enough to know what life means, pray for all children who die young that God may gather them into His loving arms.
Holy Innocents, you were killed because one man was filled with hatred, pray for those who hate that God may touch their hearts and fill them with love.
Holy Innocents, you experienced a violent death, pray for all who are affected by violence that they may find peace and love.
Holy Innocents, your parents grieved for you with deep and lasting sorrow, pray for all parents who have lost young children that God may wrap a warm blanket of comfort around them.
Holy Innocents, those around you certainly felt helpless to prevent your deaths, pray for all who feel helpless in their circumstances that they may cling to God for courage and hope.
Holy Innocents, you who are now in Heaven, pray for all of us that one day we may join you there to bask in God's love forever.
Amen.
