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1 posted on 12/16/2012 3:25:01 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/16/2012 3:25:51 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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What was her preference? It is sad when people don’t make these sort of personal intentions clear before they pass.


3 posted on 12/16/2012 3:30:18 PM PST by plain talk
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5 posted on 12/16/2012 4:02:04 PM PST by narses
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6 posted on 12/16/2012 4:02:41 PM PST by narses
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Your grandmother would prefer a Lutheran funeral. When you die, you can choose a Catholic funeral. God doesn’t care how you worship him, only that you do.


7 posted on 12/16/2012 4:05:34 PM PST by FLCowboy, (These days, people pine for Jimmy Carter........)
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The funeral is for the living. If you feel comfortable burying her as a catholic then so be it. Quite frankly I don’t care what the hell happens after I am dead, after all how you treat my body will have no bearing on my salvation.


8 posted on 12/16/2012 4:14:24 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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I think everything Fr. Zuhlsdorf says makes good sense and is orthodox. They should respect their grandmother’s wishes. If she was Lutheran, then she should have a Lutheran funeral.

They can, as Father points out, also have a Mass or Masses said on her behalf at their own Catholic church. The dead person doesn’t have to be Catholic for that.

And they can all pray for her.


9 posted on 12/16/2012 4:17:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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It’s too bad this priest’s otherwise good and wise advice was injected with this:

“... she is denied the benefits of a funeral. Yes, funerals benefit the dead!”

I’m not looking for a fight, but this is a clear example of Catholic tradition affirming something on its own, without any support from the word of God. I will readily agree that there is nothing said in the Scriptures about the proper rites of burial. There is nothing said, period. But to turn around in the face of that obvious and loud silence - silence! - and then confidently to attribute some kind of efficacy to funeral rites in order to comfort the survivors of the deceased strikes me as an accommodation to people’s feelings and emotions, and therefore their perceived needs (often just psychological/emotion) rather than to direct them to that which has the clear testimony of Holy Scripture, the confidence that comes to them from those plain clear testimonies of God, and therefore their real spiritual needs.

Proceeding from silence - no evidence - to affirm something rather than to proceed from certainty is a strange way to operate.


10 posted on 12/16/2012 4:18:58 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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Dumb question, simple answer;
Where did your grandmother worship?

Just hope that those who plan the rites when it comes time to release YOUR soul show the same courtesy.

11 posted on 12/16/2012 4:20:57 PM PST by norton
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Respect for her Lutheran faith should be given, and her funeral should be Lutheran.

BTW, Lutherans do not pray for the dead. Christ has saved them. No prayers are needed!


15 posted on 12/16/2012 5:02:55 PM PST by freemama
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My father was last known to be a nonpracticing Baptist that would say he didn't have to attend church to know God. My mother and my brother and sisters and I are Catholic, though only two of us are really practicing Catholics.

When my father died, my mother reached out to his side of the family and they had all started attending a Congregational church with a woman pastor. She was more then happy to preside over the service. My father had told my mother to do whatever she wanted, he was dead, it didn't really matter he'd already be gone from this earth. He even said if a Priest helps you, use him! While this is true, it would have been easier for my mom if my dad had specified what he wanted.

16 posted on 12/16/2012 5:19:11 PM PST by MacMattico
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A prominent Lutheran attorney (who was married to a Catholic) was killed in a tragic accident with his son a few years ago in our town. None of the Lutheran churches were large enough for his funeral. His funeral was held at the Catholic Church, but the Tabernacle was removed from the room for the service. This solution pleased all, including the Bishop.


19 posted on 12/16/2012 6:19:00 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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She’s with Jesus. Funerals are an aid to the living.


21 posted on 12/16/2012 6:26:26 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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My mother had her service all planed out and let the ministers know exactly what she wanted.

It was a wonderful gift to us that we didn’t have to worry about that.


25 posted on 12/16/2012 7:08:36 PM PST by DManA
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Catholic priests here only do funerals for baptized Catholics.


28 posted on 12/16/2012 8:31:51 PM PST by chris_bdba
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Bravo Father Z! Excellent answer!


29 posted on 12/16/2012 8:34:48 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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