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Christians Have No Right to Refuse to Work on Sundays, Rules Judge [UK]
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12/29/12 | David Barrett

Posted on 12/31/2012 10:29:14 AM PST by marshmallow

Judges have been accused of diluting the rights of Christians after a key judgment on whether they can refuse to work on Sundays.

A new ruling by a High Court judge - the first on the issue in nearly a decade - says that Christians have no right to decline working on Sunday as it is not a “core component” of their beliefs.

The judgment - which upholds an earlier decision - means that individual Christians do not have any protection from being fired for not working on Sundays.

Campaigners said the decision puts Christians at a disadvantage to other religions and means the judiciary are deciding what the core beliefs of Christians can be, which they say is an interference in the right to practise religion.

The judgment was issued by Mr Justice Langstaff as he ruled on an appeal brought by a Christian woman who was sacked after she refused to work on Sundays at a care home.

Celestina Mba claimed the council she worked for pressured her to work on Sundays and threatened her with disciplinary measures - even though other workers were willing to take the shifts.

The 57 year-old, from Streatham Vale, south London, worships every Sunday at her Baptist church, where she is also part of the ministry team offering pastoral care and support to the congregation.

She said that when she took the position in 2007 providing respite care for children with severe learning difficulties at the Brightwell children’s home in Morden, south-west London managers initially agreed to accommodate the requirements of her faith.

But within a few months of starting the job, Miss Mba said managers began pressuring her to work on Sundays.

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1 posted on 12/31/2012 10:29:21 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

My boss says the same thing. Sunday is a workday before Monday.


2 posted on 12/31/2012 10:31:25 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: marshmallow

I wonder if they restrict Moslems from prayer five times a day?


3 posted on 12/31/2012 10:37:20 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: marshmallow

Creeping socialism rear’s its ugly head. Socialists don’t believe in religious holidays, therefore, the workers do not get holidays off, because the state does not recognize them. Want a day off? Forget it. Christmas, Easter, Independence day are just another day to the socialists. If people keep pushing their luck, the state will abolish all religious holidays, for everyone, no exceptions. Vote for hope and change, and you will find that you have no hope to change it back.


4 posted on 12/31/2012 10:46:25 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

So, workers have no right to overtime on weekends unless over forty hours.


5 posted on 12/31/2012 10:51:09 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: factoryrat

Socialists are providing the reason why their rights should not be respected. It goes both ways.


6 posted on 12/31/2012 10:51:55 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: marshmallow

Once upon a time, nobody worked on Sundays or at least worked a full day on Sundays. That, of course, was before the advent of the modern weekend, and Sunday was usually the only day people got off from work.

But there are many small churches that still forbid their people from working on Sundays, and even the Catholic Church discourages it. Catholics are supposed to attend mass every Sunday, and while many of them neglect this and in fact the Church weakened Sunday by providing the Saturday evening “vigil” mass, it is still an obligation.

And all Christians are commanded to keep the Sabbath holy, which with the Jews meant not working. While most of them probably don’t follow this commandment, I don’t see why those who adhere to it should be treated as if this were just a random act of piety and this without legal protection.

I’m sure Muslims are allowed their prayer times, their Friday observances (such as chanting “death to the infidel”), etc. So why not Christians?


7 posted on 12/31/2012 10:55:03 AM PST by livius
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To: marshmallow

But I bet the Muslims get Friday off every week. Also, the judge said not working on Sunday was not one of Christianity’s core beliefs. What part of “Remember the sabbath, keep it holy” does this judge not get? Seriously England, what happened to you?


8 posted on 12/31/2012 10:55:56 AM PST by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: reg45

Unions Exempt


9 posted on 12/31/2012 10:56:14 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: marshmallow

I thought that the State has no right to dictate to religion under the First Amendment protection.


10 posted on 12/31/2012 11:01:14 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: livius

If you’re working for an at will employer, and you’re required to work weekends, then you should have to work. You can choose to work or you can find a way to work things out with your boss or choose to find a job that will let you have off. I don’t see any problem with this ruling. Everyone wins. It puts control in the hands of each individual. Doesn’t take away the rights of work places to set the schedule of their employees.


11 posted on 12/31/2012 11:02:51 AM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: reg45

In a socialist society, the state does not recognize religion, therefore, religious holidays do not apply to a secular socialist workforce. In a secular socialist state, the worker only benefits the state, and the state allows them to exist only as long as they benefit the state. Call it what you want, but if you agree to it, you are doomed to live it.


12 posted on 12/31/2012 11:08:39 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

I had a circa 1850 book and IIRC, it was early 1700’s England.. all the holidays were Feast Days. Wish I still had it. There were also two fish days....to support the fishing industry...


13 posted on 12/31/2012 11:10:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: marshmallow

Growing up we adhered to a strict no work policy at home on the Sabbath. No TV, no radio, no telephone. We never went out to eat on Sunday after church either. Our preacher told us that buying or going to the store or restaurants on the Sabbath kept others from attending church.


14 posted on 12/31/2012 11:11:33 AM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Jonty30
The Europeans sacrificed their souls at the altar of political correctness. They seem to be hellbent on self destruction. You can only save people who want to be saved. If they succumb to madness, no one can save them. Days off and holidays would be a moot point.
15 posted on 12/31/2012 11:17:13 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: marshmallow

I didn’t realize this was an issue anywhere? You sign on for a job where part of the work is on Sunday, and if you refuse you can be fired. How is this a problem?


16 posted on 12/31/2012 11:20:07 AM PST by martiangohome
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To: livius
You couldn't even travel on Sunday here in NYS circa 1790. And then there were blue laws.

It's a different world. We're not a nation of farmers who are generally at home.

The Catholic church discourages Sunday work???...never heard that one.

The church started the Saturday gig so one priest could handle two parishs.

The point is...if you take a job, they set the criteria....not you.

17 posted on 12/31/2012 11:21:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: martiangohome

>>I didn’t realize this was an issue anywhere? You sign on for a job where part of the work is on Sunday, and if you refuse you can be fired. How is this a problem?

Sometimes, the boss changes the hours and days of work. Sometimes, they agree to let you off on Sundays when you are hired, but then cite “business necessity” to renege on that deal. And sometimes, the employee changes and what used to be just another day becomes a holy day.


18 posted on 12/31/2012 11:24:29 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Republican1795.
I thought that the State has no right to dictate to religion under the First Amendment protection.

No First Amendment in the U.K.
19 posted on 12/31/2012 11:29:58 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: BCW
as it is not a “core component” of their beliefs.

Notice the out this judge gave themselves. An atheist judge will tell Christians what are their "core" beliefs. Not so with Muslims.

20 posted on 12/31/2012 11:39:52 AM PST by HarleyD
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