The Catholic Left’s Latest Call for the Ordination of Women

Crisis Magazine ^ | December 31, 2012 | Kenneth D. Whitehead

[Nemoque]

Every human being is greater than an any angel, archangels included. That was the whole point of the Epistle to the Hebrews. Some believe that the elevation of human nature over angels provoked Satan to rebel. The BVM was truly an instrument of salvation as the Mother of God; however, Mary was a sinner like all human beings. She plays a very small part in the Scriptures when compared with Jesus and the apostles. How many times is Mary even mentioned outside the gospels? The Marian Cult is based more upon superstition than reality.

[NYer]

They should found their own religion. That way they can do anything they want.

They know that, so why continue to pose their arguments? Their objective is to change the Catholic Church, not found a new one. Notice, no mention of the Orthodox Churches that also follow the same discipline.

[SuziQ]

They just won’t throw in the towel, will they.p> No, they won't, and they're adding on the demand for homosexual 'marriage', using the same argument; that it's an 'injustice' not to allow them.

It's like another religion, and you just cannot convince them that they could possibly be wrong. They're only looking at the alleged 'injustice', they're not considering the ramifications of these issues.

[SuziQ]

This all makes me think that, while serving in a hierarchical structure is a fittingly masculine (Petrine) vocation, the contemplative/mystical life is an especially feminine (Marian) vocation. And it is the better part.

I completely agree with you, however, the female ordination proponents consider 'women's work' to be a BAD thing, so they turn purple if your argument is even mentioned.

If you peel away the arguments for ordination from these women, you eventually get to what they REALLY want, and that's POWER. They want to change what the Church teaches, about abortion, homosexuality, and divorce, and they believe that the path to doing that would be priest, then Bishop, then Cardinal.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Nowhere in the Holy Scriptures is Mary described as a sinner. Quite the contrary, she is described as the Kecharitomene --- a unique word, if you want to look into it, since it is a verbal (participle) root used as a title or name, past tense, passive voice, perfect form, feminine gender. We have to express in a sentence what Greek expresses in a single word, since Greek is a highly inflected language that says a whole lot in a single word with its prefixes and suffixes: "She who has been completely filled with grace."

The Lord her Savior did this for her.

Using the analogy of, say, quicksand, one can be saved from quicksand in two ways: by being pulled out of it, or by being prevented from falling into it. We who are saved by Christ are saved in the first way, by being pulled out of the heritable consequences of Original Sin. Mary needed a Savior too, to save her the second way: by preventing her from falling in.

How do we know that? Because of the title by which the Archangel from Heaven addressed her, Kecharitomene: that says it all.

And because the Archangel said, "The Lord is with you." Not "the Lord BE with you," but "IS" with you. Scripture says (Psalm 5) "You are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil cannot dwell with You./The sinful cannot stand in Your presence; You hate all evildoers."

So Mary, His dwelling-place, had nothing to do with wickedness; He does not dwell in the presence of sin.

You say: "How many times is Mary even mentioned outside the gospels? The Marian Cult is based more upon superstition than reality."

I know what you mean. I used to think the same way, before I realized that there is a profound, Christ-centric way to read the Old Testament, a way explained by the Lord Himself.

Jesus refers to this when he is talking to the disciples on the road to Emmaus: "Beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, He interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things referring to Himself." (Luke 24:27)

It turns out that all of the OT -- every book ---refers to Christ, and every book, likewise, contains foreshadowings of Mary: from

• Gen 3:15 - the enmity between the Serpent and the Woman, between his seed (the evil) and her seed (the Christ);

to:

• Rev:12-17 - the war of the Serpent (again) against the Woman (again) and all her offspring: "those who keep the commandments of God and hold fast the testimony of Jesus."

In other words, from Genesis to Revelation, and every book in between.

Are you a disciple of Christ? Then stand with Mary and John at the foot of the Cross, when Jesus says to John and to us, "Behold, your Mother."

Happy New Year to you!

[stanne]

The Blessed Mother could have been a priest, could have insisted on it, but she didn’t. There is a reason, of course.

These women think they are better than the Blessed Mother, different as women; more important.

They are ignorant of the theology surrounding the Blessed Mother, so they are not catholic as they don’t follow Catholic teaching.

They are irrelevant and heretical.

[RobbyS]

Pointing to the Protestant churches is profoundly misleading. For one thing, the evangelicals reject the very idea of a sacerdotal priesthood, an order of Christians separate and distinct from others. Their ministers are just that: functionaries, deriving their authority from the congregations.

[District13]

Anna the Prophetess in Luke who rejoiced when she saw the Baby Jesus in the Temple. But Anna was the real deal. These silly women are playing a stupid game.

[onedoug]

Leftist claptrap.

From a Noachide trained in Catholicism from his youth.

[Biggirl]

But they will LOSE on this one, trust me.

[Biggirl]

Sadly, some disciples of Jesus will simply put Jesus’s mother on “mental ignore” and focus only on Christ.