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To: winodog
No one, of course, can snatch anything from God's hand. That, however, is not the question. The question is simple: "Is everyone's faith genuine?" If the answer is "no", then it should propel us to some soul-searching. I hear all the time that Christians want preachers who "step on their toes." What do they mean by that? I think they mean that they want their pastor to force them to look at their lives.

Is it possible for you to take a wrong direction even though you are a believer? See below:

Galatians 1: 6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

10For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.


59 posted on 01/04/2013 4:04:44 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I was just wondering at what point am I able to take back what I turned over to God. In other words, am I even able to take it back?

I imagine one would not want to if one had a honest conversion.. The question came up in conversation over a decade ago and I always wondered about it.

By the way, I was not trying to refute your initial post.


61 posted on 01/04/2013 4:21:28 PM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: xzins

Given the many warnings in the New Testament against false believers trying to deceive the church, it seems it ought to be obvious that mouthing words claiming belief are not what saves us, but the life giving and life changing baptism of the Holy Spirit. Does anyone believe the constant indwelling presence of Holy God in our lives will not compel us to live differently, and to feel differently from before?

Thanks for the series to come. I’m on the Arminian side, but it is early & I’ve been sick the last few days and besides those arguments aren’t the point of the thread.

On a societal side, has it ever been more obvious that America is NOT a nation dominated by Christians?


77 posted on 01/05/2013 4:56:12 AM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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