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To: xzins

Ephesians 2

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

The only necessary proof of salvation is 100% faith in Christ.

The presence of good works in one’s life is not sufficient or necessary proof. The absence of sin is not necessary proof.


5 posted on 01/07/2013 6:33:06 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

See each of the previous threads that are part of the series.

Also, see post #4, this thread.

Obedience to Christ for a Christian is not about earning salvation; it is about loving Christ our God and being joyful to follow Him. Since they are already Christian, it obviously isn’t about obtaining salvation.

However, what does it mean is you delight in NOT following His instruction or in being apathetic about His instructions?

Paul says to examine ourselves to see if our faith is genuine. Disobedience to Christ should concern us. It should cause us either to repent/confess, or perhaps to wonder at the genuineness of our faith (2 Co 13:5)


9 posted on 01/07/2013 6:38:14 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: fishtank

See each of the previous threads that are part of the series.

Also, see post #4, this thread.

Obedience to Christ for a Christian is not about earning salvation; it is about loving Christ our God and being joyful to follow Him. Since they are already Christian, it obviously isn’t about obtaining salvation.

However, what does it mean if you delight in NOT following His instruction or in being apathetic about His instructions?

Paul says to examine ourselves to see if our faith is genuine. Disobedience to Christ should concern us. It should cause us either to repent/confess, or perhaps to wonder at the genuineness of our faith (2 Co 13:5)


10 posted on 01/07/2013 6:38:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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