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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Good luck shoving down the throats of people here your interpretation of scripture, as everything you posted is about the one LOUD, VISIBLE return of Christ.

And quit calling people demonic that don’t buy into your twisted version. I’ve posted several scriptures to you over the months, and several on this thread. Why don’t you answer Revelation 9 that I posted earlier today? God is marking the forheads during the tribulation of those that belong to Him. Why do that if we’re with HIM?????


185 posted on 01/20/2013 4:06:33 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001
as everything you posted is about the one LOUD, VISIBLE return of Christ.

spacejunkie, where's that explanation from you on how a "catching up"; a meeting in the air as told to us by God in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, where Jesus does not come to earth but takes His bride and goes back to Heaven (In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3“If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4“And you know the way where I am going. John 14:2-4) is the same thing as the literal, physical return of Christ to earth after the seven year Tribulation? How are those two events the same thing, spacejunkie? How is never coming to earth the same thing as coming to earth?

God is marking the forheads during the tribulation of those that belong to Him. Why do that if we’re with HIM?????

After all believers in Christ are raptured away to heaven, the people left behind who come to faith in Jesus Christ as Lord after the rapture will to be known as Tribulation Saints. The Bible predicts that a huge number of people will be saved during the seven year Tribulation. Rev 7:9 describes the number as a "great multitude, which no man could number."

The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. These are not people who received Christ during the Age of Grace; they have missed the Rapture because they did not know Christ at that time but become saved after the Rapture and during the Tribulation.

To find who the people are during the Tribulation who receive a seal of God on their heads, we go to Revelation 7.

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, so that no wind would blow on the earth or on the sea or on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God; and he cried out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3 saying, “Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads.”

Who are these people? Chapter 7 beginning at verse 4 tells us who they are:

And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:

So, as we see, the people who have the seal of God on their heads are the 144,000 Jewish evangelists who will spread the gospel around the world in the absence of the church. They are not the bride of Christ who will be in Heaven during the Tribulation, and they certainly are not the Tribulation saints:

It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. (Revelation 13:7)

This verse alone is proof that the Church will not be on earth during the Tribulation because Jesus said:

upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. (Matthew 16:18)

So here is what we know. The people with the seals on their heads in Revelation 9, whom the Antichrist will not be allowed to touch, are the 144,000 saved Jewish evangelists who will be given the job of the raptured church in spreading the gospel and the Antichrist will be given the power to overcome the "saints" who can't be the church because Jesus said that hell will never prevail against the church so the "saints" spoken of in Revelation 13:7 are the people who are saved after the rapture, during the Tribulation.

Good luck shoving down the throats of people here your interpretation of scripture,

I'm not shoving anything down anyone's throat. As we see from false doctrines like post-Trib rapture mythology, people are free to accept the Scriptures as God wrote them or to deny the Scriptures as God wrote them.

Good luck finding anything God wrote that supports your false doctrine.

186 posted on 01/20/2013 4:48:25 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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